You are not worried about being too outside? These type of players worry me. Are they finals type players?
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2021 Draft Thread
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He’s not Sheds, he has elite foot skills and is a better kick than Sheds right now, he’s going to end up 10cm taller. He’s Tarryn Thomas like. Could play an attacking back flanker or winger. You want him making the 45 kick inside.
I love the vision but those roles require pace, not sure he has that, although I might be wrong. If he slips in under the 3 second mark then he stands a chance.
In the frame at pick 17, I think his contested marking will make him relevant, probably more so in defence. Think he might be less productive as a forward but you never know. I think he's the best available swingman so a value bet. Hopefully more Oscar Allen and less Josh Battle.
Jacob van Rooyen
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I did as well TBH, we gave up picks we couldn't use & upgraded to a better pick. It may have been given to someone else if we didn't give that pick as someone else may have offered better than just 38 & 40 for it.
To make it worth while pick 2 would have to be a generation player like Dusty to justify the cost of doing it. Especially as we'd be giving up the chance to rebuild our midfield. Hands like ours come along once in a blue moon & never for a Club coming off 3 flags in 5 yrs.
I'd rather use FA to get players like those u mention, it's much better than trading as the cost in comparison is huge for an A grader. With potential retirements from next yr we could possible use 3 picks inside the 1st 2 rounds next yr & get an FA for the cost of their salary alone as opposed to giving up 2 early picks for them. If we keep our picks as they are this yr that'd give us 9 players, 8 draftees + an A Grade FA in the space of 2 yrs without losing anything to get them.
Am i alone in thinking Wanganeen-Milera could be a bust? You've previously made the point with outside players that if they bomb out in their natural position they tend to not be able to play elsewhere, for example they can't then go inside mid as they don't get enough of the ball. Your comment about him maybe lacking pace has me concerned. I'd honestly prefer JVR as he fills a need & i like the fact he has a bit on mongrel about him based on the very little i have seen of him. Only other option i'd like is an inside mid slider at 15 but if there are none then JVR.
I'm pretty confident that one of Sonsie, Goater or van Rooyen will be there at 17, so it's a valuable pick, I certainly wouldn't be trading down to pick 19, that would appear to be a big drop and you run the risk of none of them being available.
IMO he'll explode with a full pre season next yr, he's already shown a bit in his career & he's never done a pre season at all, he even spent all of last summer in a cell so he did well to play at all this yr all things considered. If he does thats that problem solved.
I'd be happy with Van Rooyen and even happier if we take his Claremont teammate. Sheldrick had the better of Horne-Francis and is a natural (goal kicking) inside mid. I'm very confident that he will make it as an AFL player.
We've had a lot of success with WA lads, long may it continue.
"Over the past two months, Sheldrick has built one of the most impressive resumes, also winning the head-to-head midfield matchup against pick one favourite Jason Horne-Francis in the first Under-19 Championships clash between WA and SA.
Horne-Francis was unable to impact the game through the midfield and was relegated to playing in the front half, in what was a surprise disruption to an otherwise near-flawless close to 2021.
In the WAFL Colts Grand Final, Sheldrick battled on manfully and was the dominant force through the middle, amassing 27 touches despite copping a bad corky in the second quarter and an unsportsmanlike knee to the ribs while down on all fours in the third quarter.
Angus Sheldrick has announced himself as a draft bolter after a strong campaign in WA. Photo by Paul Kane/Getty Images
Given Sheldrick's recent eye-catching performances, his best on ground display at the weekend's final Under-19 Championships clash should surprise no one; he's a competitor who shows up every week and does what is asked of him.
In each of the Championships games, WA was clearly a level above through the midfield and the contribution of Sheldrick played a large part. An impressive stoppage midfielder, the 17-year-old is a strong-bodied stoppage specialist with a height and build akin to Lachie Neale.
At 179cm and 88kg, Sheldrick is strong over the ball and routinely wins first possession, works hard around the ground to receive loose ball gets, possesses an explosive burst of speed, shrugs tackles and tackles with intent, plays a strong two-way game and hits the scoreboard.
Impressively, during the WAFL Colts finals series, Sheldrick kicked six goals from three games, while kicking another two goals in his final match against SA, including the sealer.
Where Sheldrick will need to put work into his game is his kicking and decision making. He is effective feeding outside runners by hand but at this stage lacks polish and precision by foot. Whether he is under pressure or has time with ball in hand, at times he will attempt ill-advised kicks that lack situational awareness.
Gaining fans in recent months, Sheldrick is viewed as a likely mid-draft choice and would be a strong value selection for a club looking to give their midfield an immediate boost of competitiveness"
AFL Draft Weekly Wrap: stoppage specialist Sheldrick a WA bolter
A Western Australian stoppage specialist dominated in the AFL Under-19 Championships and has put together an impressive draft resume, writes ESPN Draft expert Chris Doerre.
He's one to consider, I'm still a bit hesitant with the short stocky guys, although Rowell is similar so there definitely is a place. One to consider with a twenties pick.I'd be happy with Van Rooyen and even happier if we take his Claremont teammate. Sheldrick had the better of Horne-Francis and is a natural (goal kicking) inside mid. I'm very confident that he will make it as an AFL player.
We've had a lot of success with WA lads, long may it continue.
"Over the past two months, Sheldrick has built one of the most impressive resumes, also winning the head-to-head midfield matchup against pick one favourite Jason Horne-Francis in the first Under-19 Championships clash between WA and SA.
Horne-Francis was unable to impact the game through the midfield and was relegated to playing in the front half, in what was a surprise disruption to an otherwise near-flawless close to 2021.
In the WAFL Colts Grand Final, Sheldrick battled on manfully and was the dominant force through the middle, amassing 27 touches despite copping a bad corky in the second quarter and an unsportsmanlike knee to the ribs while down on all fours in the third quarter.
Angus Sheldrick has announced himself as a draft bolter after a strong campaign in WA. Photo by Paul Kane/Getty Images
Given Sheldrick's recent eye-catching performances, his best on ground display at the weekend's final Under-19 Championships clash should surprise no one; he's a competitor who shows up every week and does what is asked of him.
In each of the Championships games, WA was clearly a level above through the midfield and the contribution of Sheldrick played a large part. An impressive stoppage midfielder, the 17-year-old is a strong-bodied stoppage specialist with a height and build akin to Lachie Neale.
At 179cm and 88kg, Sheldrick is strong over the ball and routinely wins first possession, works hard around the ground to receive loose ball gets, possesses an explosive burst of speed, shrugs tackles and tackles with intent, plays a strong two-way game and hits the scoreboard.
Impressively, during the WAFL Colts finals series, Sheldrick kicked six goals from three games, while kicking another two goals in his final match against SA, including the sealer.
Where Sheldrick will need to put work into his game is his kicking and decision making. He is effective feeding outside runners by hand but at this stage lacks polish and precision by foot. Whether he is under pressure or has time with ball in hand, at times he will attempt ill-advised kicks that lack situational awareness.
Gaining fans in recent months, Sheldrick is viewed as a likely mid-draft choice and would be a strong value selection for a club looking to give their midfield an immediate boost of competitiveness"
AFL Draft Weekly Wrap: stoppage specialist Sheldrick a WA bolter
A Western Australian stoppage specialist dominated in the AFL Under-19 Championships and has put together an impressive draft resume, writes ESPN Draft expert Chris Doerre.www.espn.com.au
At 179cm he's not too short, we'll strip some weight off him. I just reckon he's such a competitor, I really value that, he's a winner.
Hope not. Ward for me but irrespective I prefer the idea of a tall mid first. Erasmus or Johnson.
First I've seen of Goater and on those highlights I think you're right.
Reminds me of JON'S highlights back in the day. Looked superb at sweeping on the ball but then the highlights suspiciously cut out so you couldn't see whether his kicks hit the target.
The only targets Goater makes by foot in those highlights is when he kicks laterally to an uncontested target
Both can get the footy but one has the much better foot skills.
Augustus Gloop was pretty strong over a blueberry muffin too
definite alarm bells when a kids kicking efficiency in question on a highlight reel.
not a deal breaker, but weigh it up in the valuation.
If its a choice between The Sons, Goater and JVR at 17,
Id probably toss the coin between Sons and JVR, and hope JVR won,
based on the rule if you can't split a small and a big, go big
