Saw that as well. But others have had him as high as a first round selection. You could throw a blanket over a lot of kids from the 2nd round onwards.Just curious. Draft central article suggests Long as a late to rookie selection. Reaching at 28?
Saw that as well. But others have had him as high as a first round selection. You could throw a blanket over a lot of kids from the 2nd round onwards.Just curious. Draft central article suggests Long as a late to rookie selection. Reaching at 28?
I know Red but there is still a slight chance. If Andrews & Gibcus go early then he can still slide to us. If Hobbs can get past GC pick then I think we might be ours.Unfortunately, as it stands right now Poking Faces, I’m not sure we’ll get access to Hobbs. Not completely out of the question, but unlikely I reckon. Ditto Ward.
Think with guys like Long & Knevitt you need to stack their credentials up against a player like Contsable. You would probably want a quicker & more contested version, I have always pictured Constable to be on the slowish side, not particularly contested and not a player who uses his height advantage in marking contests.Saw that as well. But others have had him as high as a first round selection. You could throw a blanket over a lot of kids from the 2nd round onwards.
Correct DA. Endurance not an issue. Pace the only concern but that was also the knock on Cripps.And has a tank judging from his 2klm time trial.
If he has a turn of pace he would be a pretty handy prospect
I agree but Constable has no standout features. He is just a big sized mid. Long at least hits the scoreboard. I think from memory he played a fair bit of football this in the forward line, so has more upside in developing his inside game.Think with guys like Long & Knevitt you need to stack their credentials up against a player like Contsable. You would probably want a quicker & more contested version, I have always pictured Constable to be on the slowish side, not particularly contested and not a player who uses his height advantage in marking contests.
Definitely another one we should consider. They are definitely handy numbers. Endurance also not an issue. 6.18 minutes in his 2km time trial.Good selections but I reckon with Long you would be able to get him in the 30's to 40's, what's your view on Knevitt? another tall mid who's expected to go in the mid to late 20's
Mitch Knevitt (Geelong Falcons/Vic Country)
Midfielder, 193cm, 81kg
A hulking inside midfielder, Knevitt wins contested ball in congestion and can haul in marks with his strong hands overhead. The Falcons prospect dominated in his final three NAB League games, averaging 30.3 disposals, 14.7 contested possessions and 6.3 marks.
Dan says: Ranking points hauls of 151, 136 and 165 to close out the season. A great size and showed he can be a marking presence up forward.
Jordan says: If he can put it together as a tall midfielder, he could prove very hard to stop around the ground.
Yeah, with players that height you would probably want one outstanding weapon. If you are drawing blanks & find yourself projecting a Constable or Hately then best to look elsewhere.I agree but Constable has no standout features. He is just a big sized mid. Long at least hits the scoreboard. I think from memory he played a fair bit of football this in the forward line, so has more upside in developing his inside game.
One things for sure I am with you on grabbing a 190cm plus midfielder in this draft. Its a must we do this. Who that is up for debate.
I agree Smoking, I am keen to grab big bodied midfielder as well. Goater would be good but if we miss on him I think Knevitt has huge potential. His last month of football was as good as anyone and I thought he was more impressive than Hobbs in the last trial game. If we miss on them then Long would be a good option with one of our later picks, started the season in top form and has only slipped down rankings due to injury.I agree but Constable has no standout features. He is just a big sized mid. Long at least hits the scoreboard. I think from memory he played a fair bit of football this in the forward line, so has more upside in developing his inside game.
One things for sure I am with you on grabbing a 190cm plus midfielder in this draft. Its a must we do this. Who that is up for debate.
You have to remember in those Vic trial games they where rotated around,Hobb's and Macdonald where put in the forward half,after playing the first half in the midfield.I agree Smoking, I am keen to grab big bodied midfielder as well. Goater would be good but if we miss on him I think Knevitt has huge potential. His last month of football was as good as anyone and I thought he was more impressive than Hobbs in the last trial game. If we miss on them then Long would be a good option with one of our later picks, started the season in top form and has only slipped down rankings due to injury.
Tall mids with aerial ability & a burst from the stoppage tend to have higher ceilings, Bont the best example but there's others like Yeo (although a lengthy project) & Fyfe who have multiple weapons in attack.You have to remember in those Vic trial games they where rotated around,Hobb's and Macdonald where put in the forward half,after playing the first half in the midfield.
I don't know whats the obsession is with big mids ,l wonder how the Demons would go having Chol pickett,and Astbury as rucks,instead of Gawn and Jackson.
Bontempelli does okay with very average rucks. I don't have an obsession with big mids I just think one of those guys would compliment what we already have and gives us more versatility. I am aware of that rotation with Vic Country but putting that aside Knevitt caught my eye for what he could offer and obviously has a very good tank which is another bonus.You have to remember in those Vic trial games they where rotated around,Hobb's and Macdonald where put in the forward half,after playing the first half in the midfield.
I don't know whats the obsession is with big mids ,l wonder how the Demons would go having Chol pickett,and Astbury as rucks,instead of Gawn and Jackson.
Yeah maybe. I’m not convinced Andrew goes as early as being predicted. Think a bit of bs might be floating around on that. Freo could have us (Johnson) and WCE (Erasmus) cornered if they decide to go that way. Who knows. What order do they have Johnson, Rachele and Hobbs in ? Hard to say.I know Red but there is still a slight chance. If Andrews & Gibcus go early then he can still slide to us. If Hobbs can get past GC pick then I think we might be ours.
Horne - Norf
Daicos - Pies
Darcy - Dogs
GWS - Andrews
GC -Callaghan
Adelaide - Gibcus
Ward - Hawks
Johnson - Freo
Hobbs - Rich
As clubs always say Infinitum every single year (and the punters still don’t get with endless questions every year about positional drafting), we’ll pick best available regardless of position - unless there’s players rated the equal and they tack to the positional preference between them. Clarke mentioned this (again) a couple of weeks ago.So, that makes the first selection critical, what's you opening gambit Redford? Tall mid or medium mid with the first?
Absolutely firming on this strategy of four midfielders, I would even entertain bundling the two picks in the twenties if that allowed us a look in with Wanganeen-Milera, I think as a third selection it's not a bad approach. You could probably nab a midfield slider a bit further down the order. Not 100% sure that Butler goes as early as predicted, that really depends on how recruiters view his potential, small forward or legitimate centre square player.I wouldn’t be unhappy if we went 4 straight mids in a row and set the future up in that particular part of the ground. Or, if they had a key position player in there that they rated after our second pick, fine. But I see hopefully a strong focus on the mids in this Draft.
I’m not in the ‘must’ category on that front. If they’re a decent player and happen to be 190, all the better maybe for a bit of ‘multi functionality’ and therefore risk mitigation, but I’m not wedded to it. Best player outright for me.Agree, Reds. But I don't know why people thing it's a 'must' we grab a 190cm+ mid. We didn't have one in our three flags. Melbourne doesn't have one. I think Yeo is 190 so West Coast just had one, and of course there's Bont (and Crumples but he doesn't count because he's always dropping a foot or two whenever someone comes near him).
Not unhappy with that as a strategy but personally, I’m just so-so on Milera. Think he has a larger risk factor than others around him. Butler a different story. Quite amazing how different he is to Dan.Absolutely firming on this strategy of four midfielders, I would even entertain bundling the two picks in the twenties if that allowed us a look in with Wanganeen-Milera, I think as a third selection it's not a bad approach. You could probably nab a midfield slider a bit further down the order. Not 100% sure that Butler goes as early as predicted, that really depends on how recruiters view his potential, small forward or legitimate centre square player.
The significant advantage of big mids such as Dusty, Fyfe, Bont, Cripps, Yeo, Petracca is twofold.Bontempelli does okay with very average rucks. I don't have an obsession with big mids I just think one of those guys would compliment what we already have and gives us more versatility. I am aware of that rotation with Vic Country but putting that aside Knevitt caught my eye for what he could offer and obviously has a very good tank which is another bonus.
The first thing to look at is if they are good enough regardless of height, but if they are up to standard and have some extra strings to their bow then why not, especially if it is something we don't have. Top class midfielders have come in all shapes and sizes over the years.Agree, Reds. But I don't know why people thing it's a 'must' we grab a 190cm+ mid. We didn't have one in our three flags. Melbourne doesn't have one. I think Yeo is 190 so West Coast just had one, and of course there's Bont (and Crumples but he doesn't count because he's always dropping a foot or two whenever someone comes near him).