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Chris Newman [Merged]

Re: Newman

pokey said:
Gypsy__Jazz said:
pokey said:
Four points Gypsy.

Might be useful if we were on the cusp of the eight. Or ideally, entrenched in the eight. Unfortunately neither scenario is a reality.

Might be useful if you haven't won for 300 days as well.

Pretty hard to win in the off season. What's the point of counting days when 6 months of it is out of footy season. Heard that on the TV, good sensationalist sort of comment.
 
Re: Newman

punctured lung, and that run-down.....this guy is incredible....a great night Newman :clap
 
Well done Chris. If you were out there with those injuries then it explains the quiet night. But when he got the ball he always did something positive and he ran down his opponents a couple of times now.
 
Re: Newman

GoodOne said:
pokey said:
Gypsy__Jazz said:
pokey said:
Four points Gypsy.

Might be useful if we were on the cusp of the eight. Or ideally, entrenched in the eight. Unfortunately neither scenario is a reality.

Might be useful if you haven't won for 300 days as well.

Pretty hard to win in the off season. What's the point of counting days when 6 months of it is out of footy season. Heard that on the TV, good sensationalist sort of comment.
I agree and it's also incorrect if they're counting the off season, because Richmond did win a praccy match.
 
i said that to someone last night. Yes it had almost been a year, but we dont play for half of that!! So really thats just a comment to make people think we are worse than we actually are.

In the end who cares!! WE WON!!

Wonder how long newy would take to heal from a punturd lung?
 
Monster effort to play so soon after the punctured lung. Mighty stuff from Newman.

What happened when Richardson played with the skull fracture? It inspired his teammates. They lifted. Newman in particular. We drew.

Why play Newman so soon after the lung puncture? It's not about talk. It's about doing the thing. Newman plays (didn't set the world on fire) and we win. Maybe Newman's game was a match winner, in its way.
 
Re: Newman

geoffryprettyboy said:
Jools said:
He managed to run quick enough in the last to run down one of the demons.

Now that was a very tigerish effort.

Newman has a knack at running down from behind...did it last night, did it against the Bombers, and didn't ge do the 'tackle of the century' when representing Australia against Ireland?
 
Newman had an ordinary game against the Saints. But his 2007 overall has been pretty good.

But there was a classic newman moment in the third(?) quarter. Newman marked ungurade just outside fifty and central. He is, by reports, a very fine kick.

First error- he did not play on and have a shot or hit the lead. Play on and send it in should have been the first option. He never plays on. It hurts his stats.

Second error. He sat on the ball. Being a good kick, by reports, he still should have sent the ball in. But he did not.

Third error. He moved the ball sideways (backwards if anything) to the un-manned Raines, who promptly sent it in- badly of course.

When Chris Newman gets the ball in range he has to send it in. Overcooking it and laying it off to Raines was AFL kicking's equivalent of selling the dump. This is an apsect of Nerwman's game that has improved drastically this year. I would hate to see him return to his old patterns of ball use.
 
I see that Howat is in the gun for his game on Thursday but Newman is unmentioned.

The witch's hat tram track turnover machine playing on Murphy was Newman for I reckon pretty much the entire first half. ;D

But having overstated that, I thought Newman's game was a massive improvement on his opening to 07. Really turned the corner and I'm fair dinkum about that. Looks like a footballer now albeit very loose on the night. Has taken a leaf out of Raines's book in terms of when to run (straight away and all the time) and which way to move footballs (towards goal) and how soon to move a footballs (far less stop and prop- a fraction of it). Credit to him and the coaching panel.

And to illustrate my point the first possie he got was the old Newman - takes a mark, walks backwards looking for a switch, overcooks it, just no idea. A real HBF doesn't even slow for the whistle. He's off. Standard procedure. I remember thinking can you believe that this bloke, whose opponent will be BOG all year gets a game much less has an office? WTF has the panel done with him in the off season? If they think this is football they all have to go. I was going mental at the time but you get my drift.

Newman played on for pretty much the rest of the game. And that moment when he marked over Judd and handballed the split second he crashed to the ground was outstanding footy and the best play I've ever seen from the new vice-captain.

And to all those posters who thought he was hopeless (that'd be me, mo', and CC - 3 out of 2000) saw a player improve massively. (BTW compare his turnovers to Raines's or Howat's - shocking kicking but it's a whole lot harder when you run. He'll improve.)

Another comparison, in defence of Howat this time, who played by far his best game for the club although he was unconscious for much of it:

Second quarter wing or defensive wing. Newman gathers and puts his foot to the floor, credit to him and the panel again, he baulks two or three, takes three bounces and feathers a beautiful left foot kick over Richo's head (Richo is clear) and short and wide of Schulz(?). It's tough to send it in when you've got to do it after a run (Cleve Hughes anyone?).

Not long after Howat gathered the ball in about the same place, took three or four bounces and speared a pass that knocked Richo's eyes out as the double team arrived. He was tired. It had to be a very good kick and it was.

It's harder when you run. And Newman, these days, runs. His effort on Judd showed just how much he's improved recently.

It may seem that 'm bagging the sheisen out of Newman. That's not what I mean to do. The bloke never got criticised for the shocking footy he played and so I guess to many he's the same player he always was.

But to me he's gone from a footy hatcher cadging games from a wooden spooner to a worthy footballer in a finals aspirant (not necessarily Richmond ;D).

I expect that he's blown a few of the cobwebs out and that he'll improve a lot in coming weeks when he's a bit less rusty. Believe it or not, these days I'm a fan.
 
Just on the Stop-Go JD.Wouldnt you put it down to whats up the field determines not just Newy but any player weather to play on or not?Shouldnt it be upto the coaching staff to drum it into the players that they should anticipate when your teamate is going to get the ball and bust a gut to give him an option?[ideally the coaching staff shouldnt have to drum it into the players.Should come naturally].
I think what hurts Newy is the turnovers by his teamates more than anyone else in the side.
 
Agree Jack gave us some run forward and straight, which hasn't been part of his game in recent years.

Have always thought he would best fit at rhff going forward. Maybe he and Joel will spend some time rotating between rff and rhb?
 
Like you Jack I was very happy with Newman the other night an looks like he may well become mainly a half back but will now atleast be part of the midfield rotation
 
i think chris had a pretty good game on thursday....funny how dyer knocks the crap out of him...he is mentioned very very often in the best players....he got a few brownlow votes ( more than the majority of the players).....he is vice captain....he must do something right......
 
ronnit said:
i think chris had a pretty good game on thursday....funny how dyer knocks the crap out of him...he is mentioned very very often in the best players....he got a few brownlow votes ( more than the majority of the players).....he is vice captain....he must do something right......
They've gotta find something to whine/whinge/*smile* about Ronni ::)

Just take the win and enjoy it for goodness sake.

People want to dissect each player, or "the fall guys" performance, geez we're the bloody wooden spooners, of course our players are gonna have some deficiencies and flaws. That's why we came last.
Lets donate some money to PRE and get a professor of human studies on here. Maybe he can tell us something we don't already know.
Hang about, no
Lets do them all...
And bring in a draft guru, he can mention pick 19 for McMahon as well. After all some are still rabbiting on 5 months after.
They either can't read, or it's taken 5 months for the event to sink in. Talk about slowww
 
Newy has tried hard for Richmond over the years but has constantly put the side under pressure by his loose play in defense and his habit of kicking sideways, rather that going straight down the ground to key position players who may be one out.

He is a beautiful kick and I believe he could have added enormously to Richo's game in particular, if he had been prepared to take them on rather than wait wait wait for someone on a flank.

However if his game on Thursday is any indication of what is to come, then he is going to have perhaps his best year for us. Well played Chris Newman.
 
CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
Just on the Stop-Go JD.Wouldnt you put it down to whats up the field determines not just Newy but any player weather to play on or not?

Run first. Ask questions later. ;D But you're right. For the past zillion years we haven't been running hard enough.

CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
Shouldnt it be upto the coaching staff to drum it into the players that they should anticipate when your teamate is going to get the ball and bust a gut to give him an option?[ideally the coaching staff shouldnt have to drum it into the players.Should come naturally].

Well I reckon they have drummed it into the players, skip, Newman being one of them. Even though we were only playing Carlton, (did I mention that it was only Carlton? ;D) our performance in the second half was still one of the gamest I've seen from us for years.

Our run was evidence that we are getting some results from a pre-season. Very encouraging.

CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
I think what hurts Newy is the turnovers by his teamates more than anyone else in the side.

He did get burnt a couple of times by others' errors and bad luck, skip. Thursfield going to ground in a contest against a much heavier opponent was the reason for Murphy's first goal. Newman had a couple to cover.

Not surprised to see those inveterate Newman baggers, momentai and CC hoeing into him again. ;D

ronni, that's my version of a compliment. I have bagged Newman in the past. I reckon he's turning it around. Very happy with the direction he's heading in. Some inspiring stuff.

But plenty less experienced get bagged relentlessly while the vice-captain's room for improvement is taboo. If he has no weaknesses how can we note when he addresses them? (As he is doing.)