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IMPORTANT // Please look after your loved ones, yourself and be kind to others. If you are feeling that the world is too hard to handle there is always help - I implore you not to hesitate in contacting one of these wonderful organisations Lifeline and Beyond Blue ... and I'm sure reaching out to our PRE community we will find a way to help. T.
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On other matters Ezy, how are you keeping your young tiger prodigy fit, giving him a workout behind the tractor decked in gumboots and lugging a 30kg bag of spuds?
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Have a look at Russia stats. They either invented it and have immunity, are lying about stats, are not testing, all 3.
Wouldn't believe stats coming out of countries known for making propaganda statements.
I really hope that you are right easy, a slower more relaxed life/Australia would be great.
The trouble is while we are selling off the farm to people from...................housing will never be affordable for our kids.
The median house price for Sydney auctions yesterday was $1,355,000 million.
As for your aching body. I reckon if you grab a bottle and go up to the top paddock, and lie down in the long grass, it won't be long before you don't know yourself.
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Its a good suggestion Dr.Tman.
I don't know myself so often that im thinking of getting a name badge
Did eazy Jr go full Kyrgios when he was getting flogged like his old man used to at the same age?
Confession, I used to as well.
Communist countries with hard man rulers don't want to look weak. All 3, with a heavy dose of option 2.
But also, Russia's health system outside of a few key centers, is woeful. Putin has neglected it for years. Even if they wanted to be honest about it, I'd suggest they have no idea what there figures are outside of military personnel.
I'd venture another key reason is that Germany, and Japan, have super healthy populations. Their diets in general are extremely good, lower rates of obesity and therefore lower rates of underlying health issues.
Both countries, for example, have reasonable rates of smoking among the population, but much lower rates of smoking related deaths per capita.
So according to The COVID Tracking project in the US 735,704 tests have been carried out for a return of 118,234 positive.
They are either remarkably accurate with who they test or the US is in a very serious world of imminent hurt and suffering.
I’m hoping that I am misreading these figures as something more than they actually are, or that is not a reputable source of data.
They are either remarkably accurate with who they test or the US is in a very serious world of imminent hurt and suffering.
I’m hoping that I am misreading these figures as something more than they actually are, or that is not a reputable source of data.
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Stats of COVID deaths in Italy dated 26 March
In English
Stats on COVID cases in Italy dated 26 March
In Italian
Some key points.
800 cases under 18yo but no deaths.
11 healthcare workers have died, all over 50yo
60% of cases are in just two of Italy's 20 regions
80% of deaths are in those same two regions.
The median age of death is 78
Men account for 57% of cases and 70% of deaths
95% of deaths are over 60
73% of deaths had hypertension
Of the deaths under 40yo, only one had been recorded with no pre-existing serious illness.
COMMENTS
The situation in Lombardia and Emil-Romagna is what the lockdown measures are trying to avoid.
The Italian numbers will be biased toward older ages because the demography of Lombardia and Emil-Romagna is one of the oldest in the world.
The active case incidence in Italy is 0.12% of the population, given that new confirmed cases have been flat for 6 days and resolved cases (deaths + recovered) are tracking confirmed cases on about a 14-day lag and therefore still increasing, it is possible the active case rate in Italy will not reach 0.2%.
Despite this trend, the ABC saw fit to publish on Friday an infographic predicting how short Australia will be of hospital beds if the infection rate reached 20%, 40% and 60%. The ABC's best case scenario is 100 times worse than the current situation in the most infected country in the world!!!! The ABC's sensationalised reporting on COVID is a disgrace and there should be an inquiry when this is over.
In English
Stats on COVID cases in Italy dated 26 March
In Italian
Some key points.
800 cases under 18yo but no deaths.
11 healthcare workers have died, all over 50yo
60% of cases are in just two of Italy's 20 regions
80% of deaths are in those same two regions.
The median age of death is 78
Men account for 57% of cases and 70% of deaths
95% of deaths are over 60
73% of deaths had hypertension
Of the deaths under 40yo, only one had been recorded with no pre-existing serious illness.
COMMENTS
The situation in Lombardia and Emil-Romagna is what the lockdown measures are trying to avoid.
The Italian numbers will be biased toward older ages because the demography of Lombardia and Emil-Romagna is one of the oldest in the world.
The active case incidence in Italy is 0.12% of the population, given that new confirmed cases have been flat for 6 days and resolved cases (deaths + recovered) are tracking confirmed cases on about a 14-day lag and therefore still increasing, it is possible the active case rate in Italy will not reach 0.2%.
Despite this trend, the ABC saw fit to publish on Friday an infographic predicting how short Australia will be of hospital beds if the infection rate reached 20%, 40% and 60%. The ABC's best case scenario is 100 times worse than the current situation in the most infected country in the world!!!! The ABC's sensationalised reporting on COVID is a disgrace and there should be an inquiry when this is over.
This is spot on. Morrison was too slow to shut down travel from the US.
The US is responsible for twice as many imported infections into Australia as any other country.
www.smh.com.au
The US is responsible for twice as many imported infections into Australia as any other country.
Coronavirus circulating in the US in January, Australian travel ban too late
Australia should have put a travel ban on the United States and forced return travellers into hotel quarantines in February, medical and economic experts say.
One of the main reasons, if not the main reason, the death rate in Italy in older people is so high is because they have run out of ICU beds and ventilators and they are deciding that older people are the first to die.
Just a question Bill.
The 0.12% of the population, is that of the entire Italian population or just the 2 most affected regions?
In effect shouldnt we look at the rate in the 2 regioms where it has spread and there is by far the most cases and deaths?
If so could it be extrapolated, adjusted for population, to the rest of Italy. ie IF this spread from to 2 regions to all 20 then the deaths could be x10 ???
#2 for sure. Russia was just as busy as countries like Italy for airport traffic. There is no way they have the stats they are portraying. I think that is the same for confirmed cases in a lot of countries. Assuming that all countries are reporting stats as they come to hand is just not realistic.
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