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Coronavirus
- Thread starter Tigers of Old
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There is a lot of info out there, but there is always a lag between finding cases and being able to give an evidence based answer on where the cases originate.
Anyway, in terms of testing and cases, you can find the data here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...w-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704?nw=0
Unfortunately the graphs don't seem to be linkable, go about a third of the way down the page and you can get testing data and just below that tests versus new cases.
For Australia tests and cases are rising.
NSW: recent rise in tests and barely any movement on cases
Vic: big rise in tests and cases
QLD: rise in tests off a low base and no movement in cases.
WA: recent fall in tests but off a high base and cases low but not totally gone.
SA: tests have dropped a little but no cases for a while, tests still at a reasonable level though
ACT: test rate more stable and slightly increasing but no new cases
TAS: tests down a little but from a high base, no new cases.
NT: tests steadily rising but no new cases.
So, everyone is testing but cases are being found in Vic at the moment. Hard to say whether they will increase elsewhere, hard to say if there are undetected outbreaks elsewhere unless people get sick and that leads to testing of those who have been in contact with the sick.
In terms of cases per 100,000 residents Victoria is rising but still lower than Tas and NSW.
0.3% of people tested in Australia have tested positive, Victoria is right on the national average and Tas, NSW and ACT are the only states/territories above this average.
Tests per 100,000 residents are highest in Vic (about 11,500), followed by NSW, National average, Tas, SA, QLD, ACT, WA and NT.
You would have to say, given all that, that Victoria is not doing well at the moment but it would not accord with the evidence to say that similar rates of infection are not happening interstate. Are we unlucky that we have found the infections here, or are the other states getting less new infections? There is evidence we are getting more new infections in Victoria, what is not conclusive is whether there are infections not found elsewhere (not surprising given proving something isn't happening is always hard).
The above is yet another reason not to continue the defunding of the ABC.
DS
The Sherrif's job now is to collect fines and enforce court penalties isn't it?
Running a quarantine site seems outside their skill set ... to me.
And I wouldn't have given it to a dodgy security firm either but Mikakokis did.
Security in this context is misnomer.
Vietnam 2 USA 0The Vietnamese are highly disciplined as a society, and coupled with tighter social control, they've done superbly well. They had one guy (British) in hospital on a ventilator for 64 days or something - he survived. They also have good socially funded healthcare.
This article explains a lot of how they did it - cracked down hard and early before the virus penetrated much. Some things they did we can't do, like using surveillance mechanisms to keep control and taking down hoax postings on social media. Targeted test/trace and quarantine for big numbers of people (in the thousands) if a single positive was found.
How Did Vietnam Become Biggest Nation Without Coronavirus Deaths?
In Vietnam, those who enter a cafe have a good chance of meeting a security guard who sprays their hands with disinfectant. Or, if getting on a bus, they will be told to put on a mask and sit one row apart from others. Half a year into the COVID-19 pandemic, Vietnamese still practice health...www.voanews.com
Meanwhile in the US the number of deaths is now double the number of US casualties sustained in the entire Vietnam war.
Would seem a pretty simple task. Make sure people don't leave quarantine or enter from outside, and don't share cigarettes or lighters with those under quarantine.
I think that is always what a sheriff has done in our legal system (not a cop like in the USA). But they do seize assets and the like so would have some training (presumably) in dealing with surly individuals.
DS
Yeh, hopefully its just the fact that more testing being done in hot spot areas.
That is all authorities can do when they are faced with a gun-toting entitled population built on selfishness and greed and is so full of flag wavers and a sad underbelly of violent looters. God's own country? Respectful populations are needed to beat COVID.
Yeah, culture is a big factor achilles, agree. But the politicisation of the whole issue down partisan lines has made the situation worse, particular in the Red states. They've actually made mask wearing a democrat vs republican issue.
Case in point
Yep. I think this guy is well on his way to making America great again!!!Yeah, culture is a big factor achilles, agree. But the politicisation of the whole issue down partisan lines has made the situation worse, particular in the Red states. They've actually made mask wearing a democrat vs republican issue.
Case in point
I reckon the way the Americans are going is analogous to going to the drive-in and slashing the seats.
Purely just a coincidence? 79 today apparently, not good.
Victoria has failed but i dont see you making Trump like comments about Danny the truth teller.
I didnt even know you could get corona virus from routine tesring, but Dan says you can.
Just call it both ways Tiger.
can you give that to me again but in English this time..
I'll take a stab at it anyway. Yeah Victoria has some problems right now but in the grand scheme of Covid19, Australia and Victoria are doing OK. You might have noticed me complimenting all state premiers and Scomo for this.
Dan the Man vs Trump? The US just clocked over 128K deaths, so I won't be paying the Dumpster any compliments, no matter how much you beg.
You keep bringing Trump up im just responding in kind.
You cannot be happy with Victoria's situation at the moment. Something went pear shaped a few weeks back.
I suggest that double standards and lack of discipline has caused the spikes.
At the moment Victoria is blaming a select group of large families in very particular suburbs. Victoria is, not people on this site. Not me.
They need to release info on the "under investigation" cases that have been transmitted in the community ASAP.
Peta Credlin did, in a typically fact free rant:
Peta Credlin apologises for inaccurately blaming South Sudanese for coronavirus outbreak
The former Abbott government advisor inaccurately suggested South Sudanese Australians were not following social distancing measures due to a lack of English literacy.
So does the Victorian gov every day.Peta Credlin did, in a typically fact free rant:
Peta Credlin apologises for inaccurately blaming South Sudanese for coronavirus outbreak
The former Abbott government advisor inaccurately suggested South Sudanese Australians were not following social distancing measures due to a lack of English literacy.www.sbs.com.au
They even plot their home suburbs on maps.
Then they blame a language barrier.
I actually didnt notice but as you say you have, credit where its due.
I have elderly parents in country Victoria, personally i think Victoria has failed in the containment of the virus especially after the grand efforts that people committed to at the beginning of the pandemic. Failed because of a lack of respect for the virus and now they are all paying.
Not good enough in my eyes.
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