That's simply not true and not that simple. Many lost their jobs subsequently. I'm told there are thousands still stuck in UAE with no medical insurance or rent assistance. I'm talking expats here not tourists.
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Honestly why so upset now? Is this because you can't pin these quarantine errors on Daniel Andrews so you've moved your anger towards expats?
Nothing to do with your precious Daniel F. Andrews.
This person's family visited more shops in a day that I've been to in eight months, and now it's everywhere and all South Australians are prisoners through no fault of their own.
One person's whim should not be able to cause this!
The welfare of the many must come before the individual rights of the few. Repeat 25 million times.
Wasn't the outbreak into the cleaners family, not the outbreak to a returning travellers family? Maybe I've missed something
Yes OK but it's a trivial point in the scheme of things. It was brought in by someone who had elected to remain in Britain for work.
The Melbourne hotel quarantine breech occurred well after Morrison's initial call for expats to return.
I don't recall your anger towards them then.
After the Melbourne outbreak expats being able to return home was slashed hard. many have been stranded abroad in hardship.
The failures of quarantine are not their fault.
Yes thats right but you are blaming it on the traveller and his family for "visiting more shops in a day that you've been to in 8 months". What that person does or doesn't do legally, is not the responsibility of the traveller.
Its a difficult thing to manage because people come from all sorts of backgrounds that are involved and live in all sorts of accomodation.
Theres one thing providing accommodation whether thats in city hotels / outside of the city, but the rules around workers and their families is really hard to determine.
Maybe the best solution is almost operating like a mine / offshore rig, ie. all workers leave their homes for a period of time, say 4 weeks on 2 weeks off. Wages would need to rise to deal with this and make it an attractive employment opportunity but there are so many moving parts to hotel quarantine.
What part of this didn't they understand?
This is a global emergency. If you didn't heed the clear advice first time around, this government's obligations are terminated AFAIC.
DFAT says Australian travellers who want to return home amid COVID-19 pandemic should do so ASAP
The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade issues advice recommending Australians abroad who wish to return home do so as soon as possible via commercial flights.www.abc.net.au
Fortunately for people like you, it's just my opinion and not the government's stance.
People like me? I chose to stay where I was employed rather than come back and join the dole queues, and because some people here depend on me. We've already been through the government advisory stuff. I'll remind you though that the ADVISORY was to warn people that it would be harder to get back due to border controls and flight cancellations etc, not because Australia could not deal with citizens with the virus returning home.
The government doesn't owe me anything - if and when I choose to come back, I will pay my own way and I will pay for quarantine etc if the government wants it that way. That's my right as an Australian citizen - and I will not abandon other Australians in need, even if you think that's OK.
Other people were not so fortunate and could not get back and are now in very bad economic circumstances. Australia is a wealthy and scientifically literate country - we need to be able to effectively handle and quarantine people who choose to come home. And roll on vaccine - plenty of people in the world are doing it much tougher than people in Australia, I'm sorry to say.
It was to highlight what we've endured in Victoria.
Yes, difficult to manage. And if it escapes nationwide - unworkable.
Seriously, sod off mate. I haven't returned yet, I get tested regularly, and I would comply with any regulations/testing/quarantine program the government says I should comply with.
Unless my situation here gets much much worse (and this year has been a doozy so far, believe me - I laugh at people who complain about 14 day quarantine) I'm unlikely to return before a vaccine is available anyway, so don't worry your pretty little head over it.
Anger towards who? I've raised this principle before and got slammed for it. Fine, it's just an opinion, albeit strongly-held.
I'm well aware it's not the done thing for a country to turn its back on citizens, but if they ignore the government's advice then I believe any obligations should be greatly reduced, if not redundant.
You can disagree with this all you like, tell me to sod off, I don't give a sh!t. If we're stuck inside through summer or everyone starts dying again, we can revisit ithe subject of how much travellers' rights are worth.
I won't tell you to sod off.
I already have and stand by it. Lee already accused me earlier this year of returning like a "rat" or some such nonsense, before he thought better of it and deleted the post. Looks like he's falling back into bad habits.
If the government puts a total block on returning travellers (unlikely IMO) then I have to take my chances, them's the breaks.
Obviously I can't check deleted posts but highly doubt I referred to you or anyone as a rat.
Watching State of Origun in Qld being played in front of 90% ? Very packed stadium.
Yesterday MCC were trialling 25% seating limits for a match 6 weeks away.
So either Vic way over cautious or there will be a spike in COVId in Bris next week.
Yesterday MCC were trialling 25% seating limits for a match 6 weeks away.
So either Vic way over cautious or there will be a spike in COVId in Bris next week.
I've got this wrong. No chance of being around 160. I do still wonder what they will do, and what the goal is?
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