Global Warming

[AngryAnt]

Don't even need to look at "Other societies". Not like we (westerners) are some sort of inherently evil locusts that magically just dropped out of the sky 100 years ago. We all come from societies that have existed and evolved over thousands of years. So it wasn't always about infinite turbo charged growth. In actual fact GDP growth as a really focused measure only really is a post WWII phenomenon.

Right - and industrialisation and technology brought billions out of poverty and a feudal way of life, we can't deny that. Capitalism does one thing very well - maximise production and distribution of "scarce resources" as the economists tell us. But externalities are not really external to the biosphere.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Sydney was hit by a tornado once... in 1795.

This one was photographed near Tullamarine Airport a few years ago.

Cars FLIPPED, roofs RIPPED from homes as tornado TEARS through regional NSW

The rare weather event plunged thousands into darkness as a destructive superstorm slams the state.

7news.com.au

Ok...that's 2 in quick succession. Not normal.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Cars FLIPPED, roofs RIPPED from homes as tornado TEARS through regional NSW

The rare weather event plunged thousands into darkness as a destructive superstorm slams the state.

7news.com.au

Ok...that's 2 in quick succession. Not normal.

The BoM warned yesterday there might be tornadoes. Conditions obviously ripe for them at the moment.

Kurnell in Sydney was declared a disaster area after being hit by a 213kmh tornado in 2015.

Here's a list which contains some examples of tornadoes close together.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Southern_Hemisphere_tornadoes_and_tornado_outbreaks#Australia

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

We're getting a blast from the Antarctic.



And another forecast for October 28.



Second-highest snowfall ever recorded in WA

Coldest October day in Sydney for 26 years

 

[Tigers of Old]

Live from Times Square New York.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448782250829443082

 

[AngryAnt]

cAPitaliSM is the BeST waaY to DIsTRibuTe sCarCE reSoURcEs

We're getting a blast from the Antarctic.

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And another forecast for October 28.

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Second-highest snowfall ever recorded in WA

Coldest October day in Sydney for 26 years

It's almost like the climate is changing

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

It's almost like the climate is changing

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.

- Ecclesiastes 1:9

 

[AngryAnt]

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.

- Ecclesiastes 1:9

You stick with the mystical book written by desert people 2000 years ago, I'll go with science

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

You stick with the mystical book written by desert people 2000 years ago, I'll go with science

I thought you'd enjoy it.

 

[DavidSSS]

Despite the La Nina which is continuing, and which leads to lower than average temperatures, September 2021 was the 5th warmest September on record according to the NOAA and 2021 looks like it will still be in the 10 warmest years on record.

September 2021 was 0.9 degrees celsius above the 20th century average on the NOAA observations (1.16 degrees above the 1880-1920 average according to NASA).

It looked like this:

When the La Nina ends, and even more so when we get the next El Nino, it will be even hotter.

This is the observed phenomena.

The best and most credible explanation for this is human activities altering the chemical composition of the atmosphere in such a way as to enhance the greenhouse effect.

A couple of cool days in one part of the world caused by prevailing weather is irrelevant, should be posted in a weather thread not a climate thread. But the poster well knows this and is just trolling really.

DS

 

[AngryAnt]

I thought you'd enjoy it.

I didn't

 

[AngryAnt]

Despite the La Nina which is continuing, and which leads to lower than average temperatures, September 2021 was the 5th warmest September on record according to the NOAA and 2021 looks like it will still be in the 10 warmest years on record.

September 2021 was 0.9 degrees celsius above the 20th century average on the NOAA observations (1.16 degrees above the 1880-1920 average according to NASA).

It looked like this:

When the La Nina ends, and even more so when we get the next El Nino, it will be even hotter.

This is the observed phenomena.

The best and most credible explanation for this is human activities altering the chemical composition of the atmosphere in such a way as to enhance the greenhouse effect.

A couple of cool days in one part of the world caused by prevailing weather is irrelevant, should be posted in a weather thread not a climate thread. But the poster well knows this and is just trolling really.

DS

Lee will refer you back to some woo about satellite readings and hockey sticks or something.

 

[DavidSSS]

Lee will refer you back to some woo about satellite readings and hockey sticks or something.

Not likely, even the mob at UAH have this as the 6th warmest September in their much shorter temperature record.

DS

 

[AngryAnt]

Not likely, even the mob at UAH have this as the 6th warmest September in their much shorter temperature record.

DS

Oh, I'm sure he can find some crackpot blog, a russian disinformation site or some such if he looks hard enough.

If not he can get fully behind the "yes it is warming at an insane rate but it's all because of natural sun cycles" theories.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

If not he can get fully behind the "yes it is warming at an insane rate but it's all because of natural sun cycles" theories.

Climate scientists can't even explain the temperature fluctuations of the Bolling oscillation/Younger Dryas period. Which boogeyman industrialists caused those?

 

[Tigers of Old]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448898402440278016

 

[AngryAnt]

Climate scientists can't even explain the temperature fluctuations of the Bolling oscillation/Younger Dryas period. Which boogeyman industrialists caused those?

source required..

but if your argument is that uncertainty over a warming that happened in pre-Industrial times means that it's impossible to understand what is happening now, then that is a pretty sh1t argument.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

source required

Those setting the narrative like to pretend human history begins with the stable Holocene as it avoids addressing the sudden 10+ degree variations that came before, the causes of which can only be guessed at. Humans were certainly around at the time.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

but if your argument is that uncertainty over a warming that happened in pre-Industrial times means that it's impossible to understand what is happening now, then that is a pretty sh1t argument.

Just pointing out that rapid climate change is hardly unprecedented. The temperature drop at the beginning of the Younger Dryas occurred in less than a decade.

 

[AngryAnt]

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Those setting the narrative like to pretend human history begins with the stable Holocene as it avoids addressing the sudden 10+ degree variations that came before, the causes of which can only be guessed at. Humans were certainly around at the time.

That's not a source, that's a graph. And on that scale, you can't distinguish decades.

Homo sapiens have been around for 300,000 years. Show me anywhere in "the narrative" that claims they've only been around less than 15,000. The only people I know who do that are the literal Creationists who put it around 4000 years.