Hardwick

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Hardwick on AFL360 last night finally admitting publicly that Richmond peaked too early in 2018.
Winning pre-season games by >10 goals, peaking late July, treading water in August and then spent by mid September was not the Bart Cummings-style preparation that was required last year.
Man management has never been one of Dimma's strong suits, with a propensity to continue to play the same core players when overly sore, just like he used to do in the old days (this years Exhibit A is Daniel Rioli post the GWS and Bulldogs games).
Missing a genuine opportunity to go back to back is a very hard way to learn a lesson - for fans more so.
This year, injuries have forced Hardwick's hand somewhat, in terms of compulsory player rotations.
One could also argue that the relentless grind of the past few years - playing our (older) players week in week out despite injuries / soreness and not giving them the occasional well deserved week off with "general soreness" - has taken its toll with more soft tissue injuries.
Hopefully, now he is being forced to be more conservative with Cotch, has sensibly rested Dustin last week, and Stack the week before, we are seeing Hardwick's man management maturing into a smarter and well overdue version that will help us peak late September.
Before the season started and well before we had any injuries Hardwick stated they had learnt from last year and the training for the season will be structured towards building through the season to be hitting top form late in the season.

So he didn't "finally" admit it last night nor was he forced to do this by the injuries.
 
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kiwitiger

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The funny part of that on AFL360, I thought ,

While Dimma was talking about what they did wrong last year , peaking too early, and how they are doing it better this year by running into form now

You could almost see CHris Scott mind ticking over , thinking, sounds like he is talking about us this year,

Was dimma using an opportunity to play a bit of mind games ?
 
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spook

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The funny part of that on AFL360, I thought ,

While Dimma was talking about what they did wrong last year , peaking too early, and how they are doing it better this year by running into form now

You could almost see CHris Scott mind ticking over , thinking, sounds like he is talking about us this year,

Was dimma using an opportunity to play a bit of mind games ?
Dimma was coached by Sheeds and Chocco. ;)
 
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DavidSSS

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I suspect we did peak too early in 2018, on the other hand I don't think we reached the form shown in the 2017 finals either. But coming off a premiership after so long in the wilderness, a premiership which was unexpected - we thought Richmond would be competitive, we thought they might win a final or two, but we won the whole thing. The criticism after we won the GF, with comments like the worst team to win a flag and criticism of the players and how they weren't good enough to be premiership players. That would have stung, and the response was playing well early in 2018 to show the world Richmond well and truly deserved that flag. I'm not sure any coach could have stopped the players' response.

This year we look to be hitting form at the right time of the year. How good are we? Well we find out in the next 2 weeks. But we also get an opportunity to see what the serious opposition is like in the next 2 weeks. We win, great, top 4. We lose one or both, we see the level we need to rise to and get a chance to have another go in the finals. Geelong we don't see before the finals, but make no mistake, they may be stumbling for the moment but they are the real deal. Let's hope trying to peak later in the season works, it is a damned hard trick to pull off.

DS
 
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tigermike

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The funny part of that on AFL360, I thought ,

While Dimma was talking about what they did wrong last year , peaking too early, and how they are doing it better this year by running into form now

You could almost see CHris Scott mind ticking over , thinking, sounds like he is talking about us this year,

Was dimma using an opportunity to play a bit of mind games ?
Absolutely. I loved his quick response after Chris was talking down the good play of Stevens from the Saints...trying to lower his value. He knows Chris doesn't rate Richmond and can't wait to get a chance to bury them on the MCG like 2017.
 
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Brettstigers

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Well Dimma must be doing something right this especially in the last third of the season and without a truly settled squad. Places to play for come the finals
Our season gets judged over the next two weeks. Lose both and we'll be written off, win one and it and 4th spot will be too close to call. Win both and we're favourites. Though personally a GF vs WC with Nic Nat back in the side will be plenty scary.
 

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Absolutely. I loved his quick response after Chris was talking down the good play of Stevens from the Saints...trying to lower his value. He knows Chris doesn't rate Richmond and can't wait to get a chance to bury them on the MCG like 2017.
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
 

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I suspect we did peak too early in 2018, on the other hand I don't think we reached the form shown in the 2017 finals either. But coming off a premiership after so long in the wilderness, a premiership which was unexpected - we thought Richmond would be competitive, we thought they might win a final or two, but we won the whole thing. The criticism after we won the GF, with comments like the worst team to win a flag and criticism of the players and how they weren't good enough to be premiership players. That would have stung, and the response was playing well early in 2018 to show the world Richmond well and truly deserved that flag. I'm not sure any coach could have stopped the players' response.

This year we look to be hitting form at the right time of the year. How good are we? Well we find out in the next 2 weeks. But we also get an opportunity to see what the serious opposition is like in the next 2 weeks. We win, great, top 4. We lose one or both, we see the level we need to rise to and get a chance to have another go in the finals. Geelong we don't see before the finals, but make no mistake, they may be stumbling for the moment but they are the real deal. Let's hope trying to peak later in the season works, it is a damned hard trick to pull off.

DS
Agree with your point about the response and determination from the playing group in 2018 to prove that 2017 was no fluke, particularly in light of the Bulldogs fall-off in 2017 - and thus to hit the ground running.
But still think that that is where the football department needed to take responsibility and hold back / rotate / rest the individuals and group to make sure there was plenty left in the tank for September.
It has been a lesson learnt the hard way but there are some encouraging signs that Dimma and the Football Dept are resting and prepping players better this year.
Whether we are good enough will be clearer after the next two weeks.
 

Ian4

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some people would argue that things happened by accident and not design. early 2017 Griffiths went down, so we were forced to play this small forward line, which won us the flag. this year, with our early injuries, we couldn’t peak early, but we are getting it right now at the right time when most have returned from injury.
 

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some people would argue that things happened by accident and not design. early 2017 Griffiths went down, so we were forced to play this small forward line, which won us the flag. this year, with our early injuries, we couldn’t peak early, but we are getting it right now at the right time when most have returned from injury.
I said it then and will say it now.
There should be a statue of Giffens.
If he stays and plays there wouldve been no chance of a flag.
 
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graystar1

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“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
Is that a Chinese piece of proverb Jake??
 

YinnarTiger

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Sounds a bit like Sun Tsu

Another famous Sun Tsu saying:

"You have nothing to fear but fear itself.

And clowns.

Fear and clowns.

Be afraid of fear and clowns.

And badly prepared sushimi."
We used to have a poster who was fond of making quotes from Sun Tzu's "The Art of War".

He suddenly stopped posting straight after our loss to St Kilda in 2017.
 

tommystigers

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Sounds a bit like Sun Tsu

Another famous Sun Tsu saying:

"You have nothing to fear but fear itself.

And clowns.

Fear and clowns.

Be afraid of fear and clowns.

And badly prepared sushimi."
Fear...
and surprise...
and ruthless efficiency...
and a fanatical devotion to the Pope.
 
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