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It's official, Hocking and the AFL are dumb-arsed, half-baked clowns who are trying to stuff the game

zippadeee

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So the interchange rule is to reduce the high pressure game and bring in a little more fatigue. Does the AFL really thing that will stop our game plan style evolving one step ahead of the rest?
As others have noted, more fatigue equals more injury risk but time will tell
That rule suits us.
20 minutes qtrs, less Interchange
God help the opposition after half time against us.
We are the fittest and have a team full of endurance beasts.
Our percentage next year might hit the 200's...
 
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tigersnake

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I think it is about stopping the players moving sideways to cut off the angles into the corridor and force the kicker to head down the line.

Players are generally instructed to take the mark inside as much as they can.

I don't mind that so much or the kick in mark but hate the reduced rotations. The only logical outcome of that is more injured players.

we all know what its about, but its wrong. The laws, the fabric, the vibe of the game says you cannot go over the mark, sideways, backwards is fine. If you want to get around or over the man on the mark, take him on, its a CONTEST, and a contest that is at the core of the fabric of the game.

But forget all that, Hocking had a brain fart, FMD

It is staggeringly bad. and the way its been done is staggeringly bad. Impact assessment? AFL have never heard of it. Objective analysis? Forget it we have Steve, he has glasses and is whiskas brother, Data? Huh?

Unbeleivable. Corrupt hillbillies the lot of 'em.
 
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TOT70

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Heh, heh. If the change to the man on the mark rule leads to more kicks across half back going back into the corridor and not down the line we will be unstoppable. How often do Edwards, Bolton, Lambert, Cotchin, Rioli and co cut these dinky 15 metre kicks off?

It will be carnage.
 
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tigersnake

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we all know what its about, but its wrong. The laws, the fabric, the vibe of the game says you cannot go over the mark, sideways, backwards is fine. If you want to get around or over the man on the mark, take him on, its a CONTEST, and a contest that is at the core of the fabric of the game. Manning the mark is a skil and indicative of appetite for the contest.

But forget all that, Hocking had a brain fart, to make the man on the mark stationary, a cardboard cuttout, FMD

It is staggeringly bad. and the way its been done is staggeringly bad. Impact assessment? AFL have never heard of it. Objective analysis? Forget it we have Steve, he has glasses and is whiskas brother, Data? Huh?

Unbeleivable. Corrupt hillbillies the lot of 'em.
 
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zippadeee

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Heh, heh. If the change to the man on the mark rule leads to more kicks across half back going back into the corridor and not down the line we will be unstoppable. How often do Edwards, Bolton, Lambert, Cotchin, Rioli and co cut these dinky 15 metre kicks off?

It will be carnage.

That 100% suits us.
If the man on the mark is now redundant, we will be like Gazelles running the lines.
Imagine Bolton, Edrwards, Castagna and Martyn
 

ToraToraTora

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I felt during his media blurb he had no idea what he was talking about. The rotations was icing on the cake. And the only thing that might actually work, forcing players inside the 50, they are too scared to do.
 
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zippadeee

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I felt during his media blurb he had no idea what he was talking about. The rotations was icing on the cake. And the only thing that might actually work, forcing players inside the 50, they are too scared to do.

only if they wear a bib with FB or FF on it...
 

mrposhman

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It's all about creating space on the ground, and all theoretical. They're reluctant to go the nuclear option - 16 a side - so they fritter about the edges with things that have little or no impact.

Massive grey area that needs to be addressed. I can see a few players developing natural arcs over the pre-season.

Understand what they want to do, but the stats don't back it up. If more space on the ground greats higher scoring, then why does the MCG (the biggest field size in the AFL) have one of the lowest average score per game? I think when this was looked at before, the highest average score was at GMHBA so the whole story of more space creates higher scores its actually a fallacy.
 

mrposhman

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Aren't you arguing for the new rule there? Because the man on the mark will have to stand toe to toe with the kicker now and create that contest, instead of standing 10 metres inside and giving them a free passage down the line.

Whats to stop players standing 0.5m-1m behind the mark and stand off the line of the mark? I'm guessing nothing, so what does this rule change achieve?
 
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fastin bulbous

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Yeh - get back to us when you can get holding the ball and incorrect disposal right you *smile* morons
 
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Smoking Aces

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More Dusty moments?! Give me a spell.
SHocking is a liar. He's trying to dismantle our high pressure game plan.
These rule changes are completely unjustified.
They have for a few years now trying to unravel our game plan by introducing these new rules. First it was 6-6-6. That didn’t work because we went and got Tom Lynch. Now they are trying to reduce forward pressure. Problem for them is we also kill teams off the longer the game goes. We will be least effected by this.
 
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TigerFlag2017

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There appears to be a strong correlation between rule changes and richmond premierships.

So I say bravo Steve Hocking, you are doing a fine job.
 
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tigersnake

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Aren't you arguing for the new rule there? Because the man on the mark will have to stand toe to toe with the kicker now and create that contest, instead of standing 10 metres inside and giving them a free passage down the line.
No, I'm not!
 

LeeToRainesToRoach

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Understand what they want to do, but the stats don't back it up. If more space on the ground greats higher scoring, then why does the MCG (the biggest field size in the AFL) have one of the lowest average score per game? I think when this was looked at before, the highest average score was at GMHBA so the whole story of more space creates higher scores its actually a fallacy.
These are the averages for the past 10 years (with 2020 scores x 1.25). No correlation whatsoever between ground size and scoring.

Avg ScoreVenueStateGmsAKALengthWidthApprox. area (m2)
109.5Blacktown ParkNSW1161138
17450​
91.0Marvel StadiumV429160129
16211​
89.7Blundstone ArenaT22Hobart160124
15582​
89.4Giants StadiumNSW73164128
16487​
89.0GabbaQ140156138
16908​
88.7TIO Traeger ParkNT7Alice Springs168132
17417​
88.0AAMI StadiumSA67Football Park177145
20157​
87.7University of Tasmania StadiumT36Launceston175145
19929​
87.3GMHBA StadiumV73Geelong170116
15488​
86.6Melbourne Cricket GroundV466161138
17450​
85.9UNSW Canberra OvalACT25Manuka162.5138
17613​
85.4Domain StadiumWA163Subiaco175122
16768​
84.6Adelaide OvalSA159167123
16133​
84.2Westpac StadiumNZ3160129
16211​
84.0Metricon StadiumQ134Carrara158134
16628​
83.9ANZ StadiumNSW21Stadium Australia170128
17090​
83.5Sydney Cricket GroundNSW94155136
16556​
81.6Mars StadiumV5Ballarat160129
16211​
80.0Jiangwan StadiumCH3China160136
17090​
79.2Optus StadiumWA65Perth165130
16847​
78.0Riverway StadiumQ1Townsville
76.6TIO StadiumNT14Darwin175135
18555​
71.5Cazaly's StadiumQ12Cairns165135
17495​