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Noah Balta - Welcome to Tigerland

TigerMasochist

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Whatever happens for both Cholly n Balta for the finals, we've got some massive game time n learning curve into both these young fellas. Hope they both go to the break n pre season with a strong n clear focus on what they need to bring to become regular players for future seasons. There's places going to become available for them over the next couple of years.
 
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tigerman

Nank should grow a mullet.
Mar 17, 2003
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I'd play Balta ahead of Chol.
Balta had 3 clearances, Chol didn't have any in his last 3 games. Balta thumping the ball forward with a 60 metre kick from a clearance is worth gold.
Balta had a total of 3 rebound and inside 50's, Chol could only manage that many in 3 games.
If Nank can prove his fitness to the medical staff, he and Soldo to share the ruck duties.
 
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leon

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I'd play Balta ahead of Chol.
Balta had 3 clearances, Chol didn't have any in his last 3 games. Balta thumping the ball forward with a 60 metre kick from a clearance is worth gold.
Balta had a total of 3 rebound and inside 50's, Chol could only manage that many in 3 games.
If Nank can prove his fitness to the medical staff, he and Soldo to share the ruck duties.
Have to agree. Noah really competed well in the contests; he's more physical and aggressive than Cholly. Got better as the game went on, last was his best Q but you have to allow a bit for his first game back after so many weeks out. Struggled to adjust to the speed and rushed his kicking. But nearly held a couple of big grabs and didn't allow Martin to dominate him. McInerney was just too tall for him.
 

fastin bulbous

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So who recons it’s time to settle Noah in the backline? I believe its the prudent thing to do. I’ve been agonising over our tall defenders for the last few months. Unless Miller and Garthwaite step up in a big way Balta is the logical first option for an extra or replacement tall down back.
 
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Ghost of 29

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If it’s certain that Rance ain’t coming back then yes, straight to the backline.
 
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Brettstigers

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If it’s certain that Rance ain’t coming back then yes, straight to the backline.
Rance wasn't built in a day and neither will Balta be. Move him to the backline now. Tragedy would be if these amazing athletic gifts didn't turn into an AFL standard player.
 
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Tenacious

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Rance wasn't built in a day and neither will Balta be. Move him to the backline now. Tragedy would be if these amazing athletic gifts didn't turn into an AFL standard player.
True
He’s a medium to long term project that’s worth trying at this stage and the backline has suddenly opened up as an opportunity.
Happy to see how it goes
 
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Midsy

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I hope we stick with the ethos we’ve had since 2016 - play players to their strengths. I’d hate to see us try to turn him into something he’s not.

Having said that, what are his strengths, apart from his freakish athleticism?
 
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KnightersRevenge

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Aug 21, 2007
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I hope we stick with the ethos we’ve had since 2016 - play players to their strengths. I’d hate to see us try to turn him into something he’s not.

Having said that, what are his strengths, apart from his freakish athleticism?
He has a - dare I say it - Rance-like feverish attack on the ball too. He didn't get onto an AFL senior playing list on athleticism alone. If he is playing at this level he has most of the tools. Should just be a refining in the style you mentioned hopefully.
 

TigerPort

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Jun 29, 2006
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I hope we stick with the ethos we’ve had since 2016 - play players to their strengths. I’d hate to see us try to turn him into something he’s not.

Having said that, what are his strengths, apart from his freakish athleticism?
The thing that sticks in my head was a bit of play - in a trial match early 2018 - where Balta got beaten in the air but instead of dropping his head he sprinted to where the opposition player had kicked the ball to a teammate and Balta affected the play and won the ball back. I know it is just one small instance but not many have that in grained hunger to atone. Obviously has to learn quite a bit but I see he has the will power to go with the freaky athleticism. Good base to mould a pretty decent player
 
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RedanTiger

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I hope we stick with the ethos we’ve had since 2016 - play players to their strengths. I’d hate to see us try to turn him into something he’s not.

Having said that, what are his strengths, apart from his freakish athleticism?
Noted a couple of the following posts talked about his desire and that's all true however..;

He is a BIG kick and reasonably accurate with it.
A big strong contested mark.
Reads the game pretty well and gets to the right spots - when he rucks he generally drops back a kick behind play and mops up marking.
Prepared to get down and dirty in the clinches and give it off.
Hits pretty hard even though I flinch and pray every time he goes for a 50/50 ball. Fearless to his own danger.

His downside is that he can be too headstrong and goes like a bull at a gate sometimes.

Having said all that, he's miles in front of where Rance was in his first few years.
At this stage he's a big strong, headstrong colt with ALL the tools.
 
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caesar

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Noted a couple of the following posts talked about his desire and that's all true however..;

He is a BIG kick and reasonably accurate with it.
A big strong contested mark.
Reads the game pretty well and gets to the right spots - when he rucks he generally drops back a kick behind play and mops up marking.
Prepared to get down and dirty in the clinches and give it off.
Hits pretty hard even though I flinch and pray every time he goes for a 50/50 ball. Fearless to his own danger.

His downside is that he can be too headstrong and goes like a bull at a gate sometimes.

Having said all that, he's miles in front of where Rance was in his first few years.
At this stage he's a big strong, headstrong colt with ALL the tools.
Balta still looks like an Adonis but came back in pretty poor running shape, playing catch up now and having to do a few extras me thinks?
 
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Dont Argue

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Balta still looks like an Adonis but came back in pretty poor running shape, playing catch up now and having to do a few extras me thinks?
And unlike Rance, who would never come back underdone, Balta will not be gifted games in the seniors to learn his craft. Premiership teams don’t gift games and
Noah will rightly be asked to dominate in the VFL.
His first half in last years VFL G.F was deplorable. He’s got a lot to prove. If he turned up out of shape, it may be a fair indication that he doesn’t yet possess the required desire to achieve greatness.
 

taztiger4

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Jul 13, 2005
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And unlike Rance, who would never come back underdone, Balta will not be gifted games in the seniors to learn his craft. Premiership teams don’t gift games and
Noah will rightly be asked to dominate in the VFL.
His first half in last years VFL G.F was deplorable. He’s got a lot to prove. If he turned up out of shape, it may be a fair indication that he doesn’t yet possess the required desire to achieve greatness.
I saw a couple of sessions pre Christmas in the company of the great 1 - All Hail Caesar :)

To me he didn't look overweight, he did however lag well behind in the sprints, shuttles etc. I suspect it wasn't by design but dont know for certain.

To be honest if he was having a crack, he should be embarrassed !
 

aoc1974

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And unlike Rance, who would never come back underdone, Balta will not be gifted games in the seniors to learn his craft. Premiership teams don’t gift games and
Noah will rightly be asked to dominate in the VFL.
His first half in last years VFL G.F was deplorable. He’s got a lot to prove. If he turned up out of shape, it may be a fair indication that he doesn’t yet possess the required desire to achieve greatness.
I'm relying on one of you draft followers here..... is it correct that the knock on Noah in his draft year were doubts over his desire for the game, whether he'd be all in and do the hard work?
Maybe we lock him in a little room with the 2 Ivans and they have a chat about what’s required to succeed!