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Olympics Tokyo 2021 - sport

The reason for some sporting bodies having the separate components of Great Britain as competing members and other sporting bodies having Great Britain in its entirety, is not some conspiracy theory of the English choosing when they “need the rest of the others” or not.

It’s simply a legacy of the very early days of competition in these sports, when there weren’t really many other countries to play internationals against. So the “home nations” played among themselves. Given they were founding members of that sport, to honour this tradition, there’s never been any suggestion to wind it up to compete as Great Britain.
 
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The reason for some sporting bodies having the separate components of Great Britain as competing members and other sporting bodies having Great Britain in its entirety, is not some conspiracy theory of the English choosing when they “need the rest of the others” or not.

It’s simply a legacy of the very early days of competition in these sports, when there weren’t really many other countries to play internationals against. So the “home nations” played among themselves. Given they were founding members of that sport, to honour this tradition, there’s never been any suggestion to wind it up to compete as Great Britain.
PT, yes yes, all true probably, but it won't stop me using the "when England decide they need help" line.
 
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They pick and choose based on when England think they need help.

Olympics - GB
Rugby League - GB
FIFA World Cup - Eng, Sco, Wal, Nth Ire
Rugby Union - Eng Scot Wal - Ireland and Northern Ireland compete as one team
Commonwealth - Split

It's all a bit odd.

Rugby league not quite right. There is an England rugby league side but they also compete as Great Britain, in a similar way to Rugby Union that play as each nation but also as the British and Irish Lions.
 
The reason for some sporting bodies having the separate components of Great Britain as competing members and other sporting bodies having Great Britain in its entirety, is not some conspiracy theory of the English choosing when they “need the rest of the others” or not.

It’s simply a legacy of the very early days of competition in these sports, when there weren’t really many other countries to play internationals against. So the “home nations” played among themselves. Given they were founding members of that sport, to honour this tradition, there’s never been any suggestion to wind it up to compete as Great Britain.

This is a good article explained here, similar to what you say but not because not enough teams to play against but more to do with the BOA encompassing all of the UK, rather than individual associations.


The reason why the Commonwealth games are different is because each country has a seperate Commonwealth Games Association of which each UK country has 1 each hence why they compete as individual countries, but the IOC only recognise the 1 association (The British Olympic Association).
 
The reason for some sporting bodies having the separate components of Great Britain as competing members and other sporting bodies having Great Britain in its entirety, is not some conspiracy theory of the English choosing when they “need the rest of the others” or not.

It’s simply a legacy of the very early days of competition in these sports, when there weren’t really many other countries to play internationals against. So the “home nations” played among themselves. Given they were founding members of that sport, to honour this tradition, there’s never been any suggestion to wind it up to compete as Great Britain.

Yep, spot on. History is complicated there.
 
Rugby league not quite right. There is an England rugby league side but they also compete as Great Britain, in a similar way to Rugby Union that play as each nation but also as the British and Irish Lions.

The Lions tour a different country 4 years I think whereas Great Britain for League happens every 2 years against Aus (The Ashes), not sure about other countries.

There was an ANZAC rugby team once. Played one match against the Lions during the 89 Tour.
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Try telling the Scots or the Welsh they are not indeed indeed separate countries and they will tell you to go *smile* yourself, regardless of the peculiarities of the Union. Of course the Scots in particular want more independence than they have now.
Again it depends on your definition of a country, for a lot of people this means somewhere you wouldn’t need to seek independence from another governing entity. No need for glasses in the face as long as definitions of language are understood.
 
The Lions tour a different country 4 years I think whereas Great Britain for League happens every 2 years against Aus (The Ashes), not sure about other countries.

There was an ANZAC rugby team once. Played one match against the Lions during the 89 Tour.
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I believe Australia and New Zealand also competed as a combined Australasia team in one of the early modern Olympics too.
 
The reason for some sporting bodies having the separate components of Great Britain as competing members and other sporting bodies having Great Britain in its entirety, is not some conspiracy theory of the English choosing when they “need the rest of the others” or not.

It’s simply a legacy of the very early days of competition in these sports, when there weren’t really many other countries to play internationals against. So the “home nations” played among themselves. Given they were founding members of that sport, to honour this tradition, there’s never been any suggestion to wind it up to compete as Great Britain.
@Baloo 's explanation seems much more logical to me
 
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