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Prestia !!

I know people are worried about bringing in an underdone Prestia.

But how underdone would he have to be to give us less than Ross/Stack/Dow have in that position?

No disrespect to those players, but Prestia, even at 20%, is still surely an upgrade?

Dion is a champ,

but I remember his ball use very early in 2017 made Dylan Sheil look like Dustin Martin.

I broadly agree CT, but its a game of mm's and other than the very notable exception of M.Pickett's debut,

Audacity and Risk are not long chapters in Dimma's playbook
 
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Definitely still around, Daniher certainly had issues with it, Brad Crouch and Josh Kelly as well I believe.

There's probably a few of reasons why it is heard less now. Firstly we generally only use the term when the injury becomes chronic and now we are much better at spotting it early and stopping it getting to that point.

The second reason is likely to be the enthusiasm of the journos. In the spirit of beating the competition you find journos now who want to play Dr and one-up the competition with how much they know. Syndesmosis is a great example. For years we would have just said ankle injury, then someone heard the word and now you can guarantee if you mention ankle the first question from a cadet will be about syndesmosis.

Lastly, it is a condition that impacts a player's capacity in a number of physical ways so we wouldn't share that unless they were going to be out for a significant time.
It think they mentioned the other night that's what Elliot Yeo is out with. I'm 46 and I got it in March. Took two ultra-sounds, MRI and colonoscopy to exclude other things and finally pin point in May. Dropped me from doing marathons to 10 min runs. Do hour pelvic exercise every second day and just now up to running for 1 hour every other day. Long road to recovery!
 
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No doubt Prestia is a star and probably close to the most Underrated genuine midfielder in the league, mainly because he lines up beside Martin and Cotchin , however it’s proven it’s incredibly risky to bring in underdone players in finals, in saying that we are Richmond
 
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No doubt Prestia is a star and probably close to the most Underrated genuine midfielder in the league, mainly because he lines up beside Martin and Cotchin , however it’s proven it’s incredibly risky to bring in underdone players in finals, in saying that we are Richmond

I agree MrB. Having said that, there didnt look to be anything underdone about Nank first up?

Jeez, I cant help but smile when I think of the

Martin Cotchin Bolton Edwards Pickett Prestia rotation
 
Yeah, once you get severe inflammation or degeneration of the join where the pubis bones meet it is seriously debilitating.

The trick is catching it early and managing it so you don't create long term changes in the area.

I'll bet if you think back you would have had signs, probably some groin soreness that came and went but was manageable enough to not pay too much attention to it?

In the past players would just push through that and then the real problems came.
Interesting reading TBR , I was playing senior footy at 15 so was training 3 nights in a row per week and then obviously playing game day, in the second season of the same routine , I developed sore groins, the ol trainer who fixed everything with a whiff of deep heat and a swig of bourbon had me doing all soughts of stretches and wearing bike shorts, at the time you just want to play footy and had no idea the damage I was doing , wasn’t long till I started twanging hammys, a few years later when I moved to Melbourne I started seeing a physiotherapist ( his brothers played a few games for the Tiges ;) ) and we discovered I had a crack in my hip that had been there for sometime, diagnoses for me was due to poor posture and lower back/hip problems I’d caused to much stress on my groins hamstrings , I wouldn’t be surprised if it was OP
 
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I agree MrB. Having said that, there didnt look to be anything underdone about Nank first up?

Jeez, I cant help but smile when I think of the

Martin Cotchin Bolton Edwards Pickett Prestia rotation
i Reckon Shedda will be fine, may take the big ball of meat a couple of runs before running a place 3rd up. , history says you can’t play to many underdoners at the pointy end , it is a bloody unique season though
 
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i Reckon Shedda will be fine, may take the big ball of meat a couple of runs before running a place 3rd up. , history says you can’t play to many underdoners at the pointy end , it is a bloody unique season though

ive felt all along we could win the flag without one of them but not without both.

lately though, ive been thinking we could win the flag without both :cool:
 
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Dion is a champ,

but I remember his ball use very early in 2017 made Dylan Sheil look like Dustin Martin.

I broadly agree CT, but its a game of mm's and other than the very notable exception of M.Pickett's debut,

Audacity and Risk are not long chapters in Dimma's playbook

Agreed, and if he were replacing Martin (or even Shiel) he'd be long odds.

But the question is, does a fumbly out of form dual premiership reigning best and fairest offer more than a Thomson Dow?
 
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Yeah, once you get severe inflammation or degeneration of the join where the pubis bones meet it is seriously debilitating.

The trick is catching it early and managing it so you don't create long term changes in the area.

I'll bet if you think back you would have had signs, probably some groin soreness that came and went but was manageable enough to not pay too much attention to it?

In the past players would just push through that and then the real problems came.
Yep TBR. When I first noticed in March i thought associated with sciatic nerve so just kept running - GP never even considered it as OP or running related and because of Covid couldn't see my physio. It wasn't until I finally saw my physio through telehealth and some of the symptoms were cauda equina like she sent me to emergency. Luckily she was linked in with the Doc on duty and he specialises in sports medicine (and could examine me hands on) that it was diagnosed.
 
I think Shedda will be fine - he hasn’t been injured so as long as he has kept himself at elite fitness - then his touch will come fairly quickl.

Prestia was injured so it may take a little more time, but then Nank proved me wrong though
 
Got to try and get him in against Adelaide, game time is important. But, it all depends on his progress with the injury.

DS
 
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Adelaide game not important the bye before finals is the club will give him game time in a scratch match.
 
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the reptation for underdone finals selections costing a team mostly comes from a reluctance to drop players who are already in the team.

Phil Davis a recent example, picked at random of course.
 
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but the reptation for underdone finals selections costing a team mostly comes from a reluctance to drop players who are already in the team.

Phil Davis a recent example, picked at random of course.
Remember our 2015 effort.
 
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but the reptation for underdone finals selections costing a team mostly comes from a reluctance to drop players who are already in the team.

Phil Davis a recent example, picked at random of course.

coat us big time with the likes of Conca and Griffiths picked for elimination finals when underdone
 
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coat us big time with the likes of Conca and Griffiths picked for elimination finals when underdone

I’m not saying players have never been rushed back because of a final, just that the reputation is more associated with avoidance of dropping an injured player already in the team.

My point is Prestia’s return is unlikely to cost us.

Re: Conca and Griffiths, all I’ll say is we’re now a powerhouse capable of beating premiership favourites without Prestia, Edwards, Nank, Astbury, etc. so the club will make the decision absent of desperation. I’m not concerned at all.
 
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but the reptation for underdone finals selections costing a team mostly comes from a reluctance to drop players who are already in the team.

Phil Davis a recent example, picked at random of course.

Will also have Edwards Astbury in the same boat. Surely we can't have them all coming back in at once ?
 
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Whatever the resolution we should not underestimate how important Prestia is to us, along with Edwards as well.

Prestia is really important in the middle, he is also our major link player getting from contest to contest. Edwards creates things out of nothing which is really important this year.

I keep on thinking about the Port game when we were killed in the stoppages and clearances and none of Cotchin, Prestia and Edwards played. Those 3 together in the midfield compliment each other so well, one is a contested bull , one is a great clearance and link player and the other creates.

Get them all in the team in the finals and we will be really hard to beat.
 
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