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Progress toward a republic stalls

lefty

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It surprises me that so many of the chest beating, flag waving nationalists that inhabit this place want to retain the monarchy. You would think that this proud Aussie element would want us to stand on our two feet and break the ties with the old country.

One of the Barmy Army's best taunts is when they sang 'God save YOUR Queen, long may she reign over YOU!'

Even the stinky, sunburned, no chinned poms understand the irony and irrelevance of us having a foreign head of state!
 

poppa x

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May 28, 2004
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Nah. I'm a republican (believe it or not) but I just can't get excited over an issue that will come to pass AFTER Richmond wins its next premiership. And that's not likely any time soon.
 

Redford

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Dec 18, 2002
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struggletown3121 said:
Redford said:
RemoteTiger said:
Or maybe you are a chardonnay sipping socialist just having a lend of us all! Hmmm!

No, that's me (although I drink imported beer, not chardonnay).

AND Vodka and Orange.....a 16 year old chicks drink!!!!!!!!

Arise princess Redford you soft tasmanian reject!!

I have graduated to vodka and cranberry....which is sour, and thus, makes me tough. Unlike you ..you softo Kahlua and milo drinker.
 

FightingFury

Its back to Brooke time again!
Nov 25, 2003
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Redford said:
struggletown3121 said:
Redford said:
RemoteTiger said:
Or maybe you are a chardonnay sipping socialist just having a lend of us all! Hmmm!

No, that's me (although I drink imported beer, not chardonnay).

AND Vodka and Orange.....a 16 year old chicks drink!!!!!!!!

Arise princess Redford you soft tasmanian reject!!

I have graduated to vodka and cranberry....which is sour, and thus, makes me tough. Unlike you ..you softo Kahlua and milo drinker.

Hahahaha....your lying,im embarrassed to say i've seen you staggering about after a few V&Os' as you call them and your resorting to bullshitting to square up....poor form princess!
 

Redford

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struggletown3121 said:
Redford said:
struggletown3121 said:
Redford said:
RemoteTiger said:
Or maybe you are a chardonnay sipping socialist just having a lend of us all! Hmmm!

No, that's me (although I drink imported beer, not chardonnay).

AND Vodka and Orange.....a 16 year old chicks drink!!!!!!!!

Arise princess Redford you soft tasmanian reject!!

I have graduated to vodka and cranberry....which is sour, and thus, makes me tough. Unlike you ..you softo Kahlua and milo drinker.

Hahahaha....your lying,im embarrassed to say i've seen you staggering about after a few V&Os' as you call them and your resorting to bullsh!tting to square up....poor form princess!





"Staggering about"...whose doing the lying here convict ?
 

tigersnake

Tear 'em apart
Sep 10, 2003
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Tigers of Old said:
Liverpool said:
I think maybe its not all over....2 sets apiece, heading into the 5th? ;)

Scrambling better than Lleyton Hewitt but like him you've come up just a bit short. :hihi

I must be watching a different game. Not only is it Sirena V a 50 y.o Wendy Turbill, but Wendy is drunk and has eaten a few magic mushis.
 

Ready

The future is unwritten
Aug 21, 2004
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Liverpool said:
At the moment, I think many pro-republicans are using this as an excuse to push other agendas....agendas that would not see the light of day under the current Government we have.
For example, Catholics like Eddie McGuire, see becoming a republic a way where he can become more involved in the runnings of this country, simply to push forward things, ideas, or agendas he personally has a vested interest in.
Anti-Brits, such as immigrants who don't come from an Anglo background, or minority groups, see becoming a republic a way they can push forward their own ways and beliefs onto mainstream Australia.

So in other words, you believe that a republic will see the country being run by a vast nefarious cabal of Catholics and dastardly types born in those foreign sorts of countries.

It's a Conspiracy! :cutelaugh
 

FightingFury

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Nov 25, 2003
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Redford said:
struggletown3121 said:
Redford said:
struggletown3121 said:
Redford said:
RemoteTiger said:
Or maybe you are a chardonnay sipping socialist just having a lend of us all! Hmmm!

No, that's me (although I drink imported beer, not chardonnay).

AND Vodka and Orange.....a 16 year old chicks drink!!!!!!!!

Arise princess Redford you soft tasmanian reject!!

I have graduated to vodka and cranberry....which is sour, and thus, makes me tough. Unlike you ..you softo Kahlua and milo drinker.

Hahahaha....your lying,im embarrassed to say i've seen you staggering about after a few V&Os' as you call them and your resorting to bullsh!tting to square up....poor form princess!





"Staggering about"...whose doing the lying here convict ?




Why you are Pwinthess.........
 

Redford

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Dec 18, 2002
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struggletown3121 said:
Redford said:
struggletown3121 said:
Redford said:
struggletown3121 said:
Redford said:
RemoteTiger said:
Or maybe you are a chardonnay sipping socialist just having a lend of us all! Hmmm!

No, that's me (although I drink imported beer, not chardonnay).

AND Vodka and Orange.....a 16 year old chicks drink!!!!!!!!

Arise princess Redford you soft tasmanian reject!!

I have graduated to vodka and cranberry....which is sour, and thus, makes me tough. Unlike you ..you softo Kahlua and milo drinker.

Hahahaha....your lying,im embarrassed to say i've seen you staggering about after a few V&Os' as you call them and your resorting to bullsh!tting to square up....poor form princess!





"Staggering about"...whose doing the lying here convict ?




Why you are Pwinthess.........


Is that right Chilly Willy ? With the Summer months running out, how are your annual plans to escape to Queensland coming along ? Make sure you get an apartment that's got Foxtel this time Chilly Willy !
 

Liverpool

How did that Julia and Kevin thing work out? :)
Jan 24, 2005
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Anduril said:
The Governor-General's view Governor-General His Excellency Major General Michael Jeffery, in an extensive interview with Bruce Stannard published in the Canberra Times on 6 November 2004, Maintaining a theme of self-sacrifice for his country, stated that Australia’s Head of State was Queen Elizabeth II.
In response to the question: “Was it not something of an anachronism that in the 21st century, Australia, an independent sovereign nation should have as its Head of State a British Queen resident in faraway London?” he stated:
"Her Majesty is Australia's Head of State, but I am her representative and to all intents and purposes I carry out the full role. The Queen does not intervene in any way. Her only function is to approve the appointment, or the dismissal of Governors-General and Governors on the advice of the Prime Minister and Cabinet of the day... My own view is that we are extremely fortunate in having a Head of State with the tremendous knowledge and wisdom that the Queen has accumulated having been on the throne for over 50 years."
The Australian Government The Australian Government clearly states that Australia's Head of State is Queen Elizabeth II. See, for example, the Australian Government House of Representatives info sheet on The Australian System of Government and the Department of Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs website on Australia's Political System.
The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade's website outlines protocol requirements for Heads of Mission in Australia and in this context clearly refers to Queen Elizabeth II as Australia's Head of State.
The Commonwealth
Australia's country entry for the Commonwealth Secretariat clearly states:
Head of State: HM Queen Elizabeth II represented by Governor-General Major-General Michael Jeffery
Other countries
Other countries recognise Queen Elizabeth as Australia's Head of State. The British Foreign Office's Country Profile on Australia, for example, states:
Head of State: Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II
International Bar Association
The International Bar Association's website includes an entry on Australia which states:
Constitutional monarchy
Australia is a constitutional monarchy under which the head of state is a monarch (currently Queen Elizabeth 2), whose functions are regulated by the Constitution. The concept of the crown is integral to the Australian constitutional system…
http://www.republic.org.au/ARM-2001/q&a/qa_headofstatemoreindex.htm#governor

Anduril,
That's all nice propaganda from the pro-Republican webpage.
But I could counter that by posting point after point from this page:

http://www.norepublic.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=336&Itemid=4

Like I have stated, you have your views and stance....and I have mine....but neither views are covered in the Constitution.

lefty said:
It surprises me that so many of the chest beating, flag waving nationalists that inhabit this place want to retain the monarchy. You would think that this proud Aussie element would want us to stand on our two feet and break the ties with the old country.
One of the Barmy Army's best taunts is when they sang 'God save YOUR Queen, long may she reign over YOU!'
Even the stinky, sunburned, no chinned poms understand the irony and irrelevance of us having a foreign head of state!

Lefty,
I think that is because the people "chest beating" and flag waving, are the people who are proud of the flag the way it is.
I stated in an earlier post, that becoming a republic and changing the flag, are two different issues, but funnily enough, it is usually the same people who are beating down the door to get a republic started tomorrow, are the same people who want the corner ripped from the flag on the same day.
Maybe if Republicans separated the issues somewhat, then their movement might make some inroads?
While they continue to want to change to a republic and change the flag, then the majority of Australians will continue to shun their ideas, as its too much change at once.
we have seen after the BDO flag-banning fiasco, that the majority of people love the flag the way it is, and if the republican movement continue to link the two issues of a republic and a flag, I'm afraid your idea of a republican utopia will have as much chance of getting up and running as an Islamic state!

As for the Poms, they are just jealous....remember...there are two types of people...Aussies, and people who wish they were Aussies. ;)
 

RemoteTiger

Woof!
Jul 29, 2004
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God Redders who only has as Goddesses those nasty nubile sassy women in those teeny weany itsy bitsy bikinis.

Stay off the V&Os God Redders - ya gotta keep the Goddesses happy................

Strewth I'm sicker than he is!
 

Ready

The future is unwritten
Aug 21, 2004
4,791
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Anduril said:
Not propaganda.
Fact.

No, no, no. :scold

Soon enough the only time we put down our rosary beads will be to eat fish, possibly marinated with strange ethnic herbs.

It's all true. Redford is one of the key figures in this despicable plot :nodyes
 

FightingFury

Its back to Brooke time again!
Nov 25, 2003
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Redford said:
Is that right Chilly Willy ? With the Summer months running out, how are your annual plans to escape to Queensland coming along ? Make sure you get an apartment that's got Foxtel this time Chilly Willy !

My word...the freezing cold is for fluffy duck drinking Tasmanians or Northern Scotland Bwitish V&O princesses.
Lucky for you though, you fit both bills!


Pity that Mary the Danish monarch stole your thunder by getting her crown as the first Tasmanian princess before you eh? :rofl

RemoteTiger said:
Stay off the V&Os God Redders

Manhattans when he's in a 'sex in the city' mood only im afraid.

Ready said:
Anduril said:
Not propaganda.
Fact.


It's all true. Redford is one of the key figures in this despicable plot :nodyes

Shandies and V&Os are just the start of it Ready Bear..............
 

an_oxford_man

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Nov 21, 2004
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lefty said:
It surprises me that so many of the chest beating, flag waving nationalists that inhabit this place want to retain the monarchy. You would think that this proud Aussie element would want us to stand on our two feet and break the ties with the old country.

I was surprised too, Lefty. Clearly they are Johnny backers all the way.