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Talkin’ Tactics 2022
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I think you will find that once a player is taken out of play ( by being unable to move on the mark) it becomes 18 v 17.
The player with the ball is an active participant.
Ooooh, aerial ping pong is back baby.
Regular goal fests of 20 plus goals per side n 10 to 15 goal slaughtering of inept sides, yay. Gilligan better reduce the playing time of qtrs to 15 minutes, coz with all the goals scored n umpire arse waggling n instructing n setting up for each restart, there'll be 20 minutes of time on per qtr.
Pity there'll hardly be a physical contest anywhere bar the centre bounce, just high speed pretty precision uncontested AFLX up and down the ground. Flashing lights. Maybe a strobe ball to pulsate as it goes through the goals. Bit of techno dance or trance music as the ball goes back for the restart. Pumping DJ game callers......................................oh wait, we've already got those flogs.
There’s an article today by Jay Clark with quotes from Vlas saying we are going with a very tall team this year. Two tall rucks, three tall forwards and a tall backline.
Very worried about that. Think we are slow enough already without using a taller team. Personally, have never liked more than two tall forwards, then a mix of mid size and genuine nippy players thereafter. Seen so many too tall forward lines fail over the years, especially in the modern era ie post 2000.
Very worried about that. Think we are slow enough already without using a taller team. Personally, have never liked more than two tall forwards, then a mix of mid size and genuine nippy players thereafter. Seen so many too tall forward lines fail over the years, especially in the modern era ie post 2000.
Yep, share the same concern.
The problem with talls in general is that so few of them are any good. That’s why the good ones, or even the mediocre ones get ridiculous contracts and year after year in the system only to prove how utterly mediocre they actually are (Exhibit A, Chol).
Reckon you’d struggle to find half a dozen teams in the whole comp that have two genuinely good key forwards and none that have three. A not insignificant part of our success in 2017 was built around ditching the idea of playing guys like Griffiths and Elton purely for structural reasons. We found out pretty quickly that an undersized Caddy was a far better option as a forward because he’s, you know, actually a good player compared to others that were 10cm taller but 10x less effective.
I guess enough time has passed for us to forget those lessons.
Yep, arguing that the player with the ball is somehow not an active participant is nonsensical.
DS
The player with the ball is an active participant, but the point being made was that the remaining 17 v 17 allows for the ability for everyone to be "manned up". As TBR says, the stand rule doesn't magically create a free player to use.
The 18 v 17 comes when the player with the ball as a result of a mark or free kick does not go back in a straight line, which is supposed to be policed by the umpires. In the Essendon v St Kilda game last night, Heppel was trying to plead a case to the umpire that the player with the ball had gone back at an angle that made their advantage even more pronounced--he did this by trying to indicate with his arms the straight line back compared to where the player was standing. Combine that with inconsistent calls of "play on" from the umpire and frequently the team with possession does have 18 v 17 due to one player being frozen in place for an inconsistent length of time. I don't blame the umpires, the rule is contrary to the 18 v 18 contest that AFL is supposed to be about.
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Scats do it all the time! Watched Porkins do it against us in the last praccy match at Kitty Litter Park!
Turn the back to the umpire and then walk back at an angle to favour his kick!
Umpire gives up waving his arm to let Porkins pick his spot!
Scats have every angle covered!
Porkins has a nice angle kicking for goal, oppo on the mark stands like a statue! 18 V 17= Goal!
No wonder the scats sold the farm for the GWS forward!
Privy to what Shocking was going to rule introduce, practise in pre-season for it!
Then devise tactical strategy to maximize their forward goal kicking advantage with that GWS forward!
That is nonsensical. For brief but critical moments it is 18 v 17. It is the worst rule change ever made and history is unfolding as to show it was a rule introduced by one man to hinder one club.
Yeh, its the one rule change that is universally disliked. Coaches/Players/Fans. After their earlier ecstacy even the likes of mince & the fox commentary team have barely mentioned it - despite it not adding anything to the game. It does nothing for the aesthetic. Does nothing for scoring. Does nothing to make umpiring any simpler.
The AFL have shown a stubborn refusal to acknowledge how useless it has been. Why have they not come out at length and discussed at length why they have retained it?
And now they double down on useless by introducing a rule for a problem that doesn't exist. That will only increase the divide between umpires and the public.
If they truly want to stop umpire abuse Simplify the rules and the interpretation
This rule creates an extra complexity that umpires simply don’t need
There is 3 umpires for a reason but we are partially taking one away from his role to adjudicate on a rule that only 1% of interested people want
This rule creates an extra complexity that umpires simply don’t need
There is 3 umpires for a reason but we are partially taking one away from his role to adjudicate on a rule that only 1% of interested people want
But can the players ?
If the players think it's 18 v 17 then we are in TROUBLE
Tony Braxton-Hicks
There are no stupid ideas, just stupid people
Crumbing is no longer a strength. Castagna and Aarts aren't dangerous at the foot of the pack, Stack's an enigma, DRioli has gone to defence, Jr is a long way off, Clarke is an unknown quantity, and Lambert's in ICU.
We'll be relying on Bolton, Edwards and Bakes, which is truly dangerous but ideally we'd be using them further up the ground so our midfield has competitive depth.
That's why we are trying to be predictable. Everyone knows where it goes so, system over talent.
