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If it's real evidence based on actual data, it will be in the public domain - so post it.
Rachel Withers has the number of these Coalition gas whores inciting cooker murderers.
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Cooking with gas
Is there anything that can stop the Coalition from encouraging conspiracy theories and misinformation?
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High on their own supply
It has never been more apparent that the Coalition works directly for the gas companies
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Real evidence from my workplace which I'm not allowed to reveal.
Many thefts, 90% are going unreported and no punishment.
Might stop in there.
People seem to be getting upset with what I'm saying.
But yes, the majority of crimes committed that I have to deal with, through business, gets no treatment by authorities.
If it does, the majority are let go through to the keeper.
No I'm not talking $100,000 plus but still hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars worth of crime at a time.
People seem to be getting upset with what I'm saying.
But yes, the majority of crimes committed that I have to deal with, through business, gets no treatment by authorities.
If it does, the majority are let go through to the keeper.
No I'm not talking $100,000 plus but still hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars worth of crime at a time.
Rachel Withers has the number of these Coalition gas whores inciting cooker murderers.
Cooking with gas
Is there anything that can stop the Coalition from encouraging conspiracy theories and misinformation?
High on their own supply
It has never been more apparent that the Coalition works directly for the gas companies
This is a lot more complex than made out. There are actually 3 policies included within the bill.
1 - The gas price cap - In many ways this is a gimmick, the gas industry would grumble about it for a few days / weeks then cede to it. It only affects uncontracted supply sold on the spot market into Australia (about 4%) so its essentially a gimmick by the government. Whilst I don't agree with the method (I much prefer adjusting the royalty rates with higher %'s tiered to higher prices - similar to the change that the QLD government implemented in July for coal - which by the way is bringing in WAYYYYYYYYY more money than this gimmick by the feds)
2 - The $1.5bn in savings to families with concession cards - I don't think anybody in their right mind would vote against this if it was by itself
3 - This ones the kicker. The Feds want to scrap the current agreements with gas / coal suppliers and force them to accept a cost+ method. This used terminlogy like "reasonable margin", what does that even mean? Whats reasonable? Does it take into account cost of capital? Does it take into account sunk costs (eg. depreciation expenses). This is the biggest change out of this bill (but doesn't make headlines - the top 2 do, even though they aren't why the ALP are bringing this in). Personally I hate this policy for a couple of reasons. Firstly I'll say, I support changes to the fiscal environment where ridiculous prices are being paid, companies are making ridiculous profits and households are struggling. I hate the methodology that the government wants to bring in, it stinks of career politicians trying to come up with a scheme as opposed to seeing how things work in the real world. The current mechanism of royalties is perfectly setup to deal with the scenarios they want to achieve, yet they have not used it, why not? Why do the government think they are better at running businesses?
The issues I have with 3, is efficiency in process benefits everyone. Like it or not, all our super funds are invested in these companies, whether thats in ASX tracker funds or more directly. Decreasing cost of operations is beneficial to all, but as I understand it the government wants to implement a cost + % margin, so that actually incentivises companies to overstate their cost of operation as they will make more profit. How does rewarding high cost of operating with better margins make sense? This may essentially make previously uneconomical coal / gas projects suddenly become profitable, as the government will be the ones to pay for the inefficiency and expensive operations.
Like I said, I support reform in the industry and they have the platform to do it, but for some reason Chris Bowen thinks that he is best placed to try and control the entire industry. This is poorly thought out IMO and the wrong path to be going down, especially when a perfectly adequate system already existed that would actually be far more beneficial to the country. To see that you can just review the coal / gas price cap, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to do the maths. $2.3bn investment, of which $1.5bn is subsidies, so they believe the price cap will actually generate about $800m in savings Australia wide. Meanwhile, the QLD governments recent expectations are that the coal royalty increase (remember this is just QLD and only coal), will generate $3.2bn over 4 years, so thats around $800m per year (or will actually likely be higher this year. Imagine the same across the coal industry in NSW, the gas industry in all states. If these funds were ringfenced and used to either subsidy high energy bills, or spent on upgrading the infrastructure of the network, maybe, just maybe we could spend the money on generating the most efficient way to spread rooftop solar over supply back into the market, instead of the ALP's current policies of spending $20bn on just bringing in more large scale renewable projects whilst at the same time, allowing production from rooftop solar (that has already been subsidised by federal / state funding) to go to waste.
I didn't like the Libs policies around the energy market / renewables, and I'm not liking the ALP's either. I don't think either address the issues that we are facing adequately or in the best way possible for the future energy market of Australia.
The coalition, and Murdoch media, spinning tales about rampant socialism would be funny if it were not trying to define anything any government does to intervene in the oligopolistic markets as socialism. It is clearly trying to shift the agenda to further intrench neo-liberal extremism as somehow the norm. I just hope people look at minor interventions which are not socialism at all, appreciate the impact, and figure maybe socialism ain't the boogey man it is made out to be. Socialism has horrendous problems, but capitalism isn't any better.
I would agree with some of what Mr Poshman is saying. I really have no idea why they are not taxing super-profits at a very high rate (how about we match it to the highest rate of income tax in the last 100 years in Australia, that would be 60%, or we could just base it on the highest personal income tax rate the USA had years ago - 92%). I like the idea of a sliding scale too as it disincentivises charging prices which lead to high profits.
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I would agree with some of what Mr Poshman is saying. I really have no idea why they are not taxing super-profits at a very high rate (how about we match it to the highest rate of income tax in the last 100 years in Australia, that would be 60%, or we could just base it on the highest personal income tax rate the USA had years ago - 92%). I like the idea of a sliding scale too as it disincentivises charging prices which lead to high profits.
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Which just proves that the royalty system is broken and should be updated to reflect higher prices. I assume the legislation was engaged whilst prices were at a much lower level.
They don't need to reinvent the wheel (the Norwegians haven't forced through this type of legislation whereby they are trying to force through cost + margin, they have just taxed profits throughout at higher levels).
Why do Bowen and Albo think that the best route is going down a route that no other western country has gone down? The policy is more akin to what they do in countries like Venezuela (they are going well right).
Why not just take a lot of the benefits of schemes like they have in Norway to better share the wealth from higher energy prices.
Well, I'm guessing you're saying that it doesn't get to the police by what you're saying above.
I have very, very close family members who work in multiple parts of the justice system.
I can categorically say, that the offenders that are brought to them, get a punishment. The catching and prosecuting doesn't seem to be too hard.
What is hard, is the fact that the actual penalties are *smile* weak and are focussed at treating the poor helpless victim (aka the offender). There is an
overwhelming number of cases - particularly juvenile offending - where the offender gets less than a slap on the wrists and released back into the community.
One instance where an offender had repeated the same crime nearly 20 times, before they were given a custodial sentence.
There's also the parole side of ledger, where the offenders are given waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much leniency and "support"
to meet their obligations. Like Bunnerz, I can't speak to it in detail here, as I would likely get family members displined (even though the info
couldn't identify an individual specifically). On top of that, we have a section of the community, which have their own tribunal where if they
lapse in terms of obligations, they receive a different treatment than the rest of the community.
I've said elsewhere in this thread or otherwise, I am usually biased towards the centre and lean a little left in my politics. But the stuff I see in
this space, has me questioning why I don't move firmly to the right (of course the idiots in the hard right such as white supremicists and
conspiracy theorists push me away from that side of politics too!). We are far too lenient on crime in Australia.
I do laugh when I read the papers and either the headline or close to the top of the story they say “facing up xxxxx years in prison” or “ the maximum term for this crime is xxx years jail”. While technically both statements ,or variants of, might be true, how often do those found guilty ever get anywhere near that?
Interesting I worked with a guy who’s sister was shot with a gun by her partner and the guy involved (with a history of violence) gets a relative slap on the wrist and not charged with anything serious. The argument is something about not knowing the gun was loaded. Took them years and a large personal cost to get the law changed.
I guess you want a system that rehabilitates those who can so they can be productive members of society and prevents those who can’t from inflicting more harm on the community. Tough balance to get right.
Root cause seems almost always early childhood development and terrible parenting / poverty.
It is hard to not be impressed with Penny Wong as foreign Minister
It is so good to have our top diplomat understanding what is required to build rapport and steer a course between values and pragmatism in dealing with China in particular.
Anyone who has had anything to do with China (and I am sure there are many on this site) know that bluster and shaming never works with China.
The language she uses and the calm measured way she conducts herself is exactly what is needed.
Incredibly impressive imo.
It is so good to have our top diplomat understanding what is required to build rapport and steer a course between values and pragmatism in dealing with China in particular.
Anyone who has had anything to do with China (and I am sure there are many on this site) know that bluster and shaming never works with China.
The language she uses and the calm measured way she conducts herself is exactly what is needed.
Incredibly impressive imo.
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Yes, it's good to see Australia being more diplomatic in regards to it's dealings with not just China, but all of the Asia Pacific.
Albanese, Wong and Marles are streets ahead of Morrison, Marise Payne and Dutton.
Not sure where to find it but the footage of Scott Morrison giving evidence at the Robodebt Royal Commission is tremendously entertaining.
Not sure entertaining is the right word. Embarrassing and shocking are the words I would use but I know what you mean.
Robodebt was a travesty and the shame of it all is that whilst thousands suffered the worst SCOMO gets as a penalty will be getting embarrassed.
