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Tigers of Old said:
Tony Abbott's national security scare campaign hides the truth: he's making a hash of the economy

Date
June 30, 2015 - 5:55PM

Ross Gittins
The Sydney Morning Herald's Economics Editor


Tony Abbott and his ministers are more interested in diverting our attention to exaggerated threats to national security than in fixing our economic threats, says Ross Gittins.

<snip>

Ross Gittins is economics editor.

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/tony-abbotts-national-security-scare-campaign-hides-the-truth-hes-making-a-hash-of-the-economy-20150630-gi16ie.html

I think Ross is spot on, pretty much for the entire article. It has also been really interesting to watch how Hocky doesn't put his head on TV any more, Cormann tends to take that job. Abbott has gone back to just not answering questions, often related to asylum seekers, whoops I mean 'boat people', and has anyone heard from the over-performing guy who used to be responsible for the Lib's 'border protection' efforts? Yep, good ol' Scotty Morrison was doing a bit well for Abbott to let him keep, well, letting people know he was doing a good job.

While I am no big Labor Party fan either, I reckon the Libs are proving to be the worst government we have had for a VERY long time, and yet a huge proportion of Australians are being lead around by the nose thanks to Murdoch and the 'if it bleeds it leads' media.

As sad as it makes me to say, I can't help but feel that we are going backwards as a 'nation'.
 
Sueing Faifax for defamation backfired on Joe. He won some money sure, but only for the Headline banners 'Treasurer for Sale' which didn't provide the context. The court found the substance of the story was fine, that reporting that the Treasurer was selling access to his time to private entities (companies) was correct and it was in the public interest to report it. He'll be laying low for a while to work out how to spin this one, or he'll just stay away from the ABC, who tend to ask pesky questions. Also the treasurer getting $200K in damages is, in the words of a LNP polly, 'not a good look'. He might be able to use the dough to pay off his wife's Canberra mortage I guess.
 
Giardiasis said:
Except the part where he talks about the virtues of fiscal policy and debt fuelled government infrastructure spending.

I appreciate this is one of your more preferred topics to hop on-board with, but I think Ross only lightly touched on it, and largely commented on what other groups have said about what is happening here. Hard to argue with that really and something I have no interest in getting into.

From a "it's just the...vibe of the thing", kinda thing, I think it is a solid article which I would really like to aide wakening people up to a political ploy being used to misdirect vast numbers of Aussies.
 
Niki nails it, as always.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/tony-abbotts-over-the-top-on-islamic-state-death-cult-and-abc/story-fnahw9xv-1227424111241


Much has been said and written recently about Tony Abbott’s resurgence. It is true the Prime Minister’s position is safer than it was in February when, in what can now be seen as an act of mercy, 39 of his MPs voted to remove him.

He is performing with greater confidence, no doubt about it. But will he ever learn to speak to us like adults? One grown-up to a flock of others, rather than as some authoritarian father figure determined to keep his children afraid of going outside, even in broad daylight — or as a character straight out of Mad Max, all studs and spikes, with a hi-tech blunderbuss, programmed to bludgeon rather than persuade.

On Saturday, after the terrorist murders in Kuwait, Tunisia and France, Abbott warned the Daesh, or Islamic State, death cult was “coming after us”. The first impulse was to find a place to hide — under the bed with the Reds, or in the cellar with the other reds. This jarring, juvenile expression from a supposedly intelligent man was not the language of a commander-in-chief seeking to reassure his followers.

Rather, it sounded like the last resort of a politician on a perpetual campaign, counting on high anxiety levels to provide a surer path to re-election.

Australians, especially since Bali, know full well the terror threat is real. Anyone who denies that is an idiot. Any leader who ignores it would be guilty of gross negligence.

However, there is no doubt Abbott is using it relentlessly, ruthlessly, often crassly, to rebuild his stocks and wedge his opponents. Anyone who pretends that he is not is being disingenuous.

Peter Jennings and Anthony Bergin from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute have offered sound advice to the government on why it should better explain our involvement in the Middle East, why it should watch its language, and how it can counter radicalisation. Abbott should heed it.

Then there is the conduct of another conflict: Abbott’s war against the ABC.

What Q&A did was wrong on every level. Zaky Mallah, a convicted criminal whose misogynist tweets show he has a long way to go before he is rehabilitated, does not deserve a platform, in the same way that convicted pedophiles or rapists do not deserve platforms. For Q&A to even think about providing him with one was indefensible. Saying “oops we made a mistake, let’s all move on now” is inadequate.

So there is a real issue that has to be dealt with, and if people lose their jobs as a result it will not be the first time journalists have been sacked for mucking up. Furious politicians or their staff call editors every day demanding the removal or dismissal of staff, so media organisations being pressured over hostile coverage doesn’t warrant stopping the presses.

Nevertheless this does not excuse Abbott’s choice language against the ABC. Talking of leftie lynch mobs, asking whose side the ABC was on, demanding that heads roll, accusing the national broadcaster of betrayal — while consistent with Abbott’s view of the world that whoever is not with him is agin him and those agin him must be removed — was completely over the top.

Fine for Ewen Jones, not for a prime minister.

The problem is not that Abbott is too blokey. He is too brutal. His verbal violence inspires memories of Paul Keating. With one difference. Even though Keating also made us cringe and groan, he had the capacity to make us laugh, too.

Abbott’s fate hinges on the polls. Although they are trending the right way, they still show the Coalition is not ahead in a single state. Victoria remains a killing zone with the real prospect of the Liberals losing at least three seats: Deakin, Latrobe and Corangamite. What is really troubling the Liberals is the vote in Queensland and Western Australia, where Labor has picked up enough support since the election to be ahead or equal. The Coalition has to hold the line in the northwest to make up for expected losses in the southern states.

So there is no complacency in government ranks, though they remain grateful for Bill Shorten’s continuing contribution to their revival. It would be funny if it wasn’t so serious to observe Labor MPs shaking their heads wondering why, with such a flawed prime minister, victory seems destined to elude them, just as Liberal MPs similarly ask themselves why Shorten, a weak leader with such poor judgment, is even in the hunt at all. The answer to both questions is the same.

Abbott’s colleagues have also noticed recently that one of his ­rivals has displayed a surer touch in handling sensitive issues. Malcolm Turnbull’s interventions on citizenship and his prosecution of the case against the ABC have not only helped the government, they have helped his own standing within it.

Turnbull saved Abbott’s backside on the citizenship issue. Others — Julie Bishop, George Brandis, Christopher Pyne, Barnaby Joyce and Kevin Andrews — put the brakes on Abbott in the cabinet room but until Turnbull argued against it publicly as forcefully as he did, Abbott was not inclined to stop.

Abbott was rolled on this, with Turnbull as the high roller, but it is not in ministers’ interests — not now anyway — to rub his nose in it. Abbott still appears intent on pursuing sole citizens, but as one cabinet minister — not Turnbull — told me recently, this will be a fight for another day.

Turnbull’s torrid exchanges with Barrie Cassidy on Insiders last Sunday, replete with judicious use of vernacular, also did the Communications Minister no harm inside the Liberal Party, especially as the capital-C conservatives hate him for his love of the ABC and its — until now — love of him.

Instead of withdrawing from Monday night’s Q&A, Abbott’s parliamentary secretary Alan Tudge, should have taken his cue from Turnbull. Tudge could have directly confronted Tony Jones on the issue.

A few pertinent, well-phrased questions to an impertinent host would have made the point better than a retreat.
 
Just seen on Insiders, a mash up of the killing season and the breakfast club, brilliant stuff:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-04/the-breakfast-clubbing-season/6595330?section=sport
 
The way that Abbott has reacted to the Q and A furore is completely over the top.

Clearly this lapdog has an agenda to destroy the ABC for his boss Rupert.

Bring on the election. Need to get rid of this A-hole ASAP before he does any more damage to Team Australia.
 
Tigers of Old said:
The way that Abbott has reacted to the Q and A furore is completely over the top.

Clearly this lapdog has an agenda to destroy the ABC for his boss Rupert.

Bring on the election. Need to get rid of this A-hole ASAP before he does any more damage to Team Australia.
Need a decent opposition leader to do that.
 
YinnarTiger said:
Need a decent opposition leader to do that.
Yep. Billy aint an attractive alternative. I'm not a Greens man but I do like Di Natale.
 
Chiang Mai Tiger said:
Shorten is an unelectable lying weasel but the ALP we stay the course and give us a 2nd term of Tony :vomit
It's so depressing.

Hopefully the ALP will boycott Q&A as well and the show will become watchable again without the parrots from the major political parties speaking like pre recorded messages and not answering the questions.
 
Sintiger said:
It's so depressing.

Hopefully the ALP will boycott Q&A as well and the show will become watchable again without the parrots from the major political parties speaking like pre recorded messages and not answering the questions.

This. But maybe Scott Ludlam could get a go?
 
I reckon Penny Wong should lead the ALP.

Female, Asian, Lesbian. Alan Jones wouldn't know where to start.
 
tigertim said:
Yep. Billy aint an attractive alternative. I'm not a Greens man but I do like Di Natale.

Same. The most real of the 3 and one many could relate to.
 
Shorten is unelectable but I suspect the backroom boys know this and will unleash Alby six months out.

The libs will follow suit with Turnbull.

Both parties know they cannot win the next election with incumbents.
 
Carter said:
Shorten is unelectable but I suspect the backroom boys know this and will unleash Alby six months out.

The libs will follow suit with Turnbull.

Both parties know they cannot win the next election with incumbents.

This is pretty much how I see it. Labor can't run a long campaign. Their best shot is shotgun leadership change close to the election. Not sure about the Libs. Can't see them going back to Turnbull. But then I never thought Howard would get another gig.
 
Carter said:
Shorten is unelectable but I suspect the backroom boys know this and will unleash Alby six months out.

The libs will follow suit with Turnbull.

Both parties know they cannot win the next election with incumbents.

Agree on hopelessness of both 'leaders'.... I just vomited into my mouth a bit...

Don't know if I agree on the parties dumping them both though. If the ALP can't see they need to get rid of Shorten, and soon, then there is little hope for them doing it later IMO. As for George W Abbott... too many die-hard neo-con wannabes in that party to get off that bike.

Still, I just can't see it but there is always hope I suppose...