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Talking Politics
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poppa x said:
according to polling in the age, victoria prefers Labor 58 V Libs 42. (this is not surprising as Victorians are clearly smarter than the rest of Oz.)
whilst that is far from exact, it would suggest that the wider Vic community does not prefer Abbott.
still waiting for any positives re Abbott.
i might have one tho- he doesnt catch $5000 helicopters to save 20 mins each way to attend Lib party events and charge it to the tax payer.
Two things wrong with this.
One, it's clearly a ridiculous generalisation. I wonder what our Interstate PRE's think about this?
Two, it begs the question. We were comparing Abbott and Shorten, and you've changed the argument to Labor and Liberal.
Which sorta makes your quote wrong. Assuming you're a Victorian.
Just sayin'
poppa x said:
Quote a poll which says Abbott is more popular than Shorten poppa.
I'll do it for you - in fact Toned Abs did top Bill Shyten as preferred PM in May this year (News Poll), but the June Fairfax poll in June put Bill back in front. BIll's probably been hit by the Royal Commission For Taking Revenge on the Labor Party and Labor Movement, but knowing Toned he'll be back in the doldroms fairly soon.
After all there are only so many appeals to protecting borders and keeping us safe surrounded by Australian flags that he can make before even the dimmest of voters realises he ain't got nothing else.
Brodders17 said:
It's true that it is very difficult to think of any positives for Abbott. As a Liberal supporter I can't think of any myself. However Liberal (or Labor) voters don't have a say in the leader of their party. I can think of many positives to say about Liberal pollies such as Turnbull and Miss Julie. I can't think of anything positive about Bill or any of the other Labor pollies. In fact I can't think of too many Labor pollies apart from Bill, which is one of the major issues with the Labor Party.
Agreeing with each other isn't debating.Baloo said:
The point is there really isn't anything material that separates Labor and the Libs. Same *smile* different smell.
evidently a press release where Abbott demands Gillard sack Slipper as Speaker was taken down from his website a couple of days ago. obviously even he and his party acknowledge his double standards.
(my early comment about Vics being smarter was well and truely tongue in cheek.)
(my early comment about Vics being smarter was well and truely tongue in cheek.)
Giardiasis said:
disagree at the moment.
one party believes in climate change, the other is scrapping any assistance to renewables.
one party supports those less well off, at least a little. the other party has budgets that hits those with less harder.
one party believes it appropriate to knight a very very wealthy foreigner.
there are differences.
Tigers of Old said:
Out of what can be done, I think a hike in GST is a good move. I just don't know if bumping it that high is so great. If the govt knocks off Stamp Duty, as was promised with the GST's introduction, along with a complete overhaul of the taxation system, it would go a fair way to getting things on a sensible track.
K3 said:
I heard on the radio this morning that it won't affect people under $100,000 annual income. How can that be possible when groceries and fuel and every day items have additional GST added? I might misunderstand it but I reckon it hits the poorer demographic worse than the rich end of town.