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Hopefully widening the Western Ring road to four lanes across the EJ Whitten bridge gets a mention in the infrastructure report. It would be nice for once in my life to hear on the radio that traffic is flowing well between Forsyth road and Kelior Park Drive.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
No comment on the imminent report from Infrastructure Victoria listing the East West Link as a key project in the state's future? Andrews is a liar and a thief on a massive scale, and anyone who voted for him on the basis of East West is a party to the crime. This is what happens when the lunatic fringe is pandered to. Arguably a more disastrous reign than Cain/Kirner. Catastrophes like Andrews will get us long before "global warming" ever has a chance.

*smile* Labor to hell.

This may or may not be all true, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to damn the just the ALP to hell on this basis. The 'ol LNP do a good line in breaking promises (core and non core), mismanaging the nations $$ (NBN, Costellos middle class cash-grab), and pandering to lunatic fringes (flat-earth climate change deniers, god botherers).

If you're damning both parties to hell, carry on.
 
Brodders17 said:
i believe you are basing your post on an article in the Hun? so there wont be any comment from me because A) i wont read it (unless someone posts it here, or the Hun is in a cafe and i finish reading the sport before my coffee is ready), and B) even if i did read it, i wouldn't believe it. the herald sun is a disgraceful rag. the fact it has influence in this state is also a disgrace.

It really is. Same up here in Qld with the courier mail. Sinking by the day, I never though it could be possible to go any lower, but there it is.
 
Brodders17 said:
i believe you are basing your post on an article in the Hun? so there wont be any comment from me because A) i wont read it (unless someone posts it here, or the Hun is in a cafe and i finish reading the sport before my coffee is ready), and B) even if i did read it, i wouldnt believe it. the herald sun is a disgraceful rag. the fact it has influence in this state is also a disgrace.
It's always amusing when people mention The Hun or The Footy Show or A Current Affair or Bolt or anything like that how people fall over themselves to say they don't watch/read it....

Except when they they watch/read said show/paper or whatever.
 
The Greens want us to increase our refugee intake up to 50,000 from 13,000.
I agree, but we need to settle them in areas where they have access to transport and other facilities.
They also need to be surrounded by people who will welcome them.
So, my solution----
Build several apartment large blocks on existing open space in Brunswick, Fitzroy, Carlton and Northcote.
This way they'll be geographically close to the typical Greens voter who can assist them make the difficult transition to life in Australia.
 
poppa x said:
The Greens want us to increase our refugee intake up to 50,000 from 13,000.
I agree, but we need to settle them in areas where they have access to transport and other facilities.
They also need to be surrounded by people who will welcome them.
So, my solution----
Build several apartment large blocks on existing open space in Brunswick, Fitzroy, Carlton and Northcote.
This way they'll be geographically close to the typical Greens voter who can assist them make the difficult transition to life in Australia.

Good point, let's do that. And as you are someone who is sceptical about climate change and the impact of humans on the environment, we'll also move you into a house next to a coal-fired power station.
 
antman said:
Good point, let's do that. And as you are someone who is sceptical about climate change and the impact of humans on the environment, we'll also move you into a house next to a coal-fired power station.

Not bad.

I live in an area of Brisbane known as little Africa. I love it.
 
tigertim said:
It's always amusing when people mention The Hun or The Footy Show or A Current Affair or Bolt or anything like that how people fall over themselves to say they don't watch/read it....

Except when they they watch/read said show/paper or whatever.

probably cos they are rubbish and people are embarrassed.
seriously it concerning people get their 'facts' from the shows/rags/people you mention.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
No comment on the imminent report from Infrastructure Victoria listing the East West Link as a key project in the state's future? Andrews is a liar and a thief on a massive scale, and anyone who voted for him on the basis of East West is a party to the crime. This is what happens when the lunatic fringe is pandered to. Arguably a more disastrous reign than Cain/Kirner. Catastrophes like Andrews will get us long before "global warming" ever has a chance.

He has no respect for rural Victoria who are stuck trying to drive to Melbourne. And what is the alternative V Line? :-\
 
Brodders17 said:
probably cos they are rubbish and people are embarrassed.
seriously it concerning people get their 'facts' from the shows/rags/people you mention.
If you don't read/watch them then what's to be embarrassed about?
 
I read The Hun. Well, I skim over it whilst having a quick breakfast. It's the perfect reminder of why this country is in its current sad state, judging by the idiot journalists, idiot columnists and idiots who write letters to the equally idiotic editor who publishes a load of rot every day.

Then there's the guy who does the video game reviews on Wednesdays, obviously getting most of his material from watching Good Game the night before and let's not forget Smithy on Fridays, the man who claims that slower motorists force him to speed and perform dangerous overtaking maneuvers putting people's lives at risk on our roads.

It would be funny if it wasn't so depressing.
 
poppa x said:
The Greens want us to increase our refugee intake up to 50,000 from 13,000.
I agree, but we need to settle them in areas where they have access to transport and other facilities.
They also need to be surrounded by people who will welcome them.
So, my solution----
Build several apartment large blocks on existing open space in Brunswick, Fitzroy, Carlton and Northcote.
This way they'll be geographically close to the typical Greens voter who can assist them make the difficult transition to life in Australia.

There already are high-rise commission flats with a high percentage of migrant residents in Fitzroy, Collingwood, Richmond, North Melbourne...
 
IanG said:
Still wondering what the catastrophe is?

It's not what the catastrophe is, it's what it will be. At the moment, it's just sad. The lunatics are running the asylum into the ground.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
No comment on the imminent report from Infrastructure Victoria listing the East West Link as a key project in the state's future? Andrews is a liar and a thief on a massive scale, and anyone who voted for him on the basis of East West is a party to the crime. This is what happens when the lunatic fringe is pandered to. Arguably a more disastrous reign than Cain/Kirner. Catastrophes like Andrews will get us long before "global warming" ever has a chance.

*smile* Labor to hell.
I actually support the east-west link as policy but if you think the Victorian libs are not complicit in this fiasco you would be wrong. The whole thing was 100% politics.

The libs rushed it through without a proper business case, there were so many standard procedures of the public procurement practice dodged it wasn't funny. They may have believed it as policy but they rushed it through and signed the contract so the Labor party would have to promise to break a binding contract to have it as policy. Which is of course exactly what happened. There is no way that the contract would have been signed when it was if there wasn't an election.

What we have now is a federal Government withholding money for a project that the people of Victoria voted against even though infrastructure decisions such as this are state responsibilities. That is wrong too.

Both sides of politics in this state are useless and both are the cause of this east-west fiasco.
 
Sintiger said:
I actually support the east-west link as policy but if you think the Victorian libs are not complicit in this fiasco you would be wrong. The whole thing was 100% politics.

The libs rushed it through without a proper business case, there were so many standard procedures of the public procurement practice dodged it wasn't funny. They may have believed it as policy but they rushed it through and signed the contract so the Labor party would have to promise to break a binding contract to have it as policy. Which is of course exactly what happened. There is no way that the contract would have been signed when it was if there wasn't an election.

What we have now is a federal Government withholding money for a project that the people of Victoria voted against even though infrastructure decisions such as this are state responsibilities. That is wrong too.

Both sides of politics in this state are useless and both are the cause of this east-west fiasco.

Exactly. Don't hate the player. Hate the game.
 
Far as I'm concerned, the Libs rushed signing the East-West link contract so that if Labor cancelled it like they promised, the Libs rich business mates at the big end of town would get paid a ton of money to do nothing. Basically fraud in my book. Your explanation that it was rushed through because of an upcoming election and to screw Labor doesn't wash with me. It's not acceptable to waste 1.1 billion dollars of taxpayers money just to screw your political rivals. An extreme abuse of power and really, the Liberals giving taxpayers the finger.

There needs to be a royal commission into this.