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Tyler Sonsie

cagedtiger said:
I find comments like this intriguing and there are many in this thread and Dows' sadly. The new boys have not played a single game of AFL - who knows what they will develop into and when, they could all be busts. Meaning how can you even make a comparison if they have zero AFL games under their belt. Both Dow and Sonsie have at least AFL experience and know what it entails and we can only hope they both can go to another level next season.

It is a tough gig to play consistent AFL football. Dow and Sonsie know this - all they can do is give it their best and I have no doubt they have been to where their development is. They would be seeing this as an opportunity to step up, given all the senior players who have now dropped off. I bet also they are seeing it is an opportunity to lead the way for the new boys. I don't buy they suddenly see themselves on notice or have competition or have to pull their finger out. They would be relishing the opportunity to integrate and team with the new recruits and to take on a more senior role.
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Competition for spots is a real thing inside football clubs.
I played a reasonably high level of football and I can tell you for a fact when a new guy turns up vying for your position, you either accept it or you do everything in your power to compete for it. Being on the edge doesn’t work for everyone but it does bring out the best in the competitive types.
There's also so much insecurity floating around football clubs, especially amongst the players that haven’t established themselves in the best 22. They’re living in a heightened state of fear of being overtaken or delisted.
 
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I would suggest that Lalor and Smilie have already overtaken him, without even playing a game.

He appears to be slow, soft and lazy, would be a monumental effort if he can turn it around from here. Good luck to the kid
 
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Feeling Tigerish said:
I would suggest that Lalor and Smilie have already overtaken him, without even playing a game.

He appears to be slow, soft and lazy, would be a monumental effort if he can turn it around from here. Good luck to the kid
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I'm confused by the slowness, he tested ok at the combine, this tells me he's a shy guy, probably doesn't realise his potential. Sonsie played a ripper final in his first year, ever since he's been meandering through life and has probably gone backwards in development. Hawks knew it, it's the reason he went from potential top 10 pick to second round slider.
 
If you’re waiting for someone like Sonsie or anyone for that matter to “turn it around” after stinking it up for 3-4 years we are kidding ourselves. How often has this happened?

We need to turn over these types a lot faster. Not sure why he Samson, Colina etc have been given so much time. It’s clear these guys are hacks. What’s the point other than clogging up the list. Turn them over and keep looking.
 
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mad_tiggy911 said:
If you’re waiting for someone like Sonsie or anyone for that matter to “turn it around” after stinking it up for 3-4 years we are kidding ourselves. How often has this happened?

We need to turn over these types a lot faster. Not sure why he Samson, Colina etc have been given so much time. It’s clear these guys are hacks. What’s the point other than clogging up the list. Turn them over and keep looking.
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There seems to be no sense of urgency. I think this is about to change. If these players think they can just coast along, their careers are going to be rather limited.
It’s now or never for a few of them. Not just to play well occasionally, but to really step up the intensity and the consistency. Otherwise it’s au revoir.
 
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Willo said:
There seems to be no sense of urgency. I think this is about to change. If these players think they can just coast along, their careers are going to be rather limited.
It’s now or never for a few of them. Not just to play well occasionally, but to really step up the intensity and the consistency. Otherwise it’s au revoir.
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Agree.

I don’t think it’s too hard to gauge when someone should be cut. Keep turning the list over. You may find that unicorn the year after.
 
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Yeah its fair to say we didnt draft enough players this year.
8.
Only 20% of the list were turned over.
Lift RFC
 
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Smilliedell said:
Yeah its fair to say we didnt draft enough players this year.
8.
Only 20% of the list were turned over.
Lift RFC
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Only 8 is apt. For a club coming off its worst ever season and winning just 2 games 8 players turned over is minimal id say.
Not to mention we have Tasmania coming in and a whole lot of compromised drafts coming our way.

If i was a betting man id say in the next three seasons excluding this one at least another 20 will be gone.
 
Don’t Argue said:
Competition for spots is a real thing inside football clubs.
I played a reasonably high level of football and I can tell you for a fact when a new guy turns up vying for your position, you either accept it or you do everything in your power to compete for it. Being on the edge doesn’t work for everyone but it does bring out the best in the competitive types.
There's also so much insecurity floating around football clubs, especially amongst the players that haven’t established themselves in the best 22. They’re living in a heightened state of fear of being overtaken or delisted.
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Plus these days it’s someone’s livelihood in the era of professional footy. I remember seeing an ex junior teammate of mine coming back home in summer after his first period of training at the dogs in the early 80”s (Brian Royal) with a nice old black eye. ‘What happened to you?”..”met the boys at training” he said with a grin. Nothing else was said. Did alright in the end did Chocco. Also watching Tommy Alvin in his debut game for Carlton being repeatedly ignored by his teammates when in the clear. Same match a young Warren Ralph kicked 9 goals on debut and Carlton won easily. Realising that if Tommy is getting a game, he has put someone out of the side who already had mates at the Club. Stripes had to be earned. He ended up with a pretty decent career too but got no easy passage from some at the Club.
 
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I havent seen a huge amount of the Sonz due to work and travel but last year i watched a few games and kept a close eye on him. As others have said, until he engages more with contact then he cant make it, even outside players need to accept contact (a criticism of Brando for early years).

I like his disposal and touch however until he fully engages he cant/wont make it at AFL level regardless of position IMO.
 
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Where did Sonsie finish in the 2k trial @caesar ?

Would have thought a guy entering his 4th pre-season who's role is built around running would be beating veterans and key position players.
 
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Leysy Days said:
Where did Sonsie finish in the 2k trial @caesar ?

Would have thought a guy entering his 4th pre-season who's role is built around running would be beating veterans and key position players.
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I think Sonz was about mid pack but I can't say for sure at the end because I was live posting about the front runners.
 
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jimbob said:
Someone will. I’ll bet my lefty he is drafted in this draft.
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I,m glad no one took you up on this bet JB.
The poor postie doesnt need to be delivering a dripping soggy envelope to the lucky preender.
 
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