Don’t bother posting hard data TOO.
I posted this chart earlier but TBR reckons we’re biased supporters, sloppy tacklers and are imagining hearing the whistle!
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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!
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I posted this chart earlier but TBR reckons we’re biased supporters, sloppy tacklers and are imagining hearing the whistle!
I wouldn’t bother if it was close but the discrepancy is significant
Worst at what TBR?
The frees for and against are for a myriad of different frees, which encompasses a huge array of individual rules.
What are the odds that year after year we consistently rate as the bottom team for free differential? The odds would be staggeringly low and yet here we are!! That’s the hard data I’m referring to. It’s not a tackling statistic.
And It’s not hard to understand
Going by these stat's ToO we might lose the free kicks by 11 you would think.
We are fked on Friday night.
Footscary kick 8 metres
They throw the ball
And they hold the ball.
We might go 23-Nil
They will ream us
I know Zips has put some mayo on this, but the sentiment is correct
3 days out from the game and most of us KNOW we will get reamed by umpires.
We won't win the free kick count, and if we cop 1 or 2 of the usual suspects (De boy, O Gorman, etc) then it could get messy.
How is this OK? How does the AFL have any integrity at all? Why can't we enter a game thinking that we will be umpired to the same standards as our opposition?
Thanks for that, if this is true it means even when an umpire is not officially the "man" he can influence the other "umps". If this is true. It is a blight on the ga,e. Biggus dickus rules.
Makes a lot of sense to me although what I'm really struggling with this year is the complete turnaround in the interpretation of holding the ball/dropping the ball/incorrect disposal ruling across the board not just Richmond games. Frustrating to watch and almost seems like a trade off with the stand/man on the mark rule.
Yeah the umps were biased for Melbourne, the pickett free and subsequent free for 2 goals were a testament to that. King the only media to call it out that I have seen, elbow to the head, no funking drama for Melbourne. Absolutely clear as day, but we all agree it didn't cost us the game. So, I reckon it means the AFL want Melbourne and the Chuckers to play in a gf. Good funking luck, its a long season. Go tigers
Worth every cent.
I advocate we start a go fund me page to raise $20k.
We’ll send Leon and Zips in to gently express our dissatisfaction.
Our man TBR can make sure the door is not locked from the inside
Maybe this is to small a sample to be conclusive. Perhaps we need the numbers from the previous four years as well to see if any genuine pattern of bias can be established. Like who's always at or near the top of the free kick count n who's always hiding under the compost at the bottom of the veggie patch.
Never bothers me as to how many frees either side gets.
And there is what should be the key question that is almost never asked. The true measure of umpiring is which decisions were right and wrong, not how many did each side give and get.
Can guarantee that over the years, the umpires get a hell of a lot more decisions right than they get wrong.
For mine though, the true measure of the umpiring is how many decisions they missed or just plain didn't bother making at all.
Doesn't matter what team is playing, time and time again when watching games the umpires will pay a free kick for a certain infringement and then completely miss, ignore another two or three infringements that are virtually identical to the previous one paid.
It's the simplest call possible. There's the rule book, if the rule is broken then pay the *smile* free kick. Ten frees, fifty frees or a hundred frees doesn't matter. Just adjudicate all the free kicks as they occur, there's far to much *smile* non adjudicating goes on in a game to " keep the game flowing " followed up by incompetent nit picking of insignificant infringements.
Watched first quarter again.
- McIntosh pushed from behind and contacted from the front while attempting to mark, 20m out. Only one of the three players attempting to mark, opponents focused on body. This is the type of free that goes against us at the other end.
- Grimes pinged for arm chop on Neal-Bullen, outer wing. Contact was vanishingly small. Nobody wants to see these paid.
- Nankervis' legs taken ~7m in from boundary, second free paid for deliberate, Nankervis kicks from boundary and hits post.
- Gawn awarded mark after Riewoldt spoils to Rioli. Only had it briefly, probably a good decision, but Nankervis had it for much longer v Sydney and was denied which cost us a goal.
- Pickett forward pocket, anticipating contact, drops mark. Mansell anticipating mark, attempts late spoil with arm across torso. Soft.
- Short with dinky outside of the boot pass to Mansell, called not 15. Ground is mown in 15m strips and Short clearly kicks from a dark strip, across a light strip, to another dark strip. Inconsequential, but perception error from umpire.
- Baker tackled without ball at half back. 50/50, happy to let it go.
- Grimes blocked by Jones running away from the ball when running to contest a mark, members' wing.
There was one other that I can't recall now. Overall not a terrible quarter of umpiring, no absolute howlers, 6-5 their way, Richmond ahead on the scoreboard. Point is that umpires are never going to be in the good books with fans and this thread will always have a place.
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Imagine if you had a rich backer like Roman Abamavoich.
You could rip into them every week
That should be one of the easiest rules to adjudicate shouldn’t it. If a player has possession of the ball and has had an opportunity to dispose of it ( played on, tried to break/evade a tackle etc), and hasn’t handballed or kicked it then is tackled, it’s holding the ball or incorrect disposal. None of this knocked out in the tackle *smile*
Saw a couple of what looked like throws from our blokes. One or two other frees that could've been paid their way.
Melbourne supporters gave a bronx cheer after one of their frees, despite winning the count for the quarter.
This
Plus this, if you are a Melbourne player you get the free kick when you elbow an opposition player. Ridiculous. Seriously, imagine if Lynch did this - it would be a free down the other end. To cap it off they got another free in the same piece of play, and for what? Flopping that's what. Reminds me of how KMac got concussed a few weeks ago and the free was paid against him.
I'll add another, goal square Punt Rd end, Balta held as the ball comes in, clear as day, everyone could see it, jumper being pulled very very obviously. If the umpires cannot see this they do not deserve to be picked to adjudicate the highest level of the game, simple. How can such incompetence be acceptable in the highest level of our game.
It simply is not good enough.
If I had the time I would go through a few neutral games and pick out the howlers - I know they will be there because the umpires are always missing frees and paying soft frees and generally displaying their incompetence.
Which is actually a further indictment on the umpiring because I am absolutely certain that the Melbourne supporters would be able to find a fair number of howlers which didn't go their way.
I still come back to the same thing - when the umpires are instructed to reduce the number of free kicks awarded per game, they are going to ignore some infringements that they observe, and they are going to be inconsistent. It is unbelievably stupid to set this as a goal, especially in a professional sport where the players, coaches and teams will push the envelope. Just pay the free kicks you observe, don't pick and choose.
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