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[Merveille]

Fritsch & Cumberland both have the ability to turn games. Melbn get it, hopefully we'll get it before Cumberland is banished from the club.

I find it interesting to look at Fritsch’s output.
Obviously Fritsch has better body language, looks more relaxed and smiles more, and has much better hair.
He also looks like a man that knows he belongs and believes and doesn’t get flustered if he is not getting near it, head stays in the game - great coaching

 

[Merveille]

Nope
Steely Green has been added to squad
Wed need another 15 injuries before Cumbo gets picked

Ironically Steely had 4 disposals two games ago against the Suns, and he wasn’t injured.
I did say he was better than those stats suggested, watching that game.
He was then better in the game against Sydney .
His form in the two games is no better than Cumbos but they are different players

 

[AstuteTiger]

Bailey Fritsch has averaged over 2 goals per game for the last 4 years, and kicked 6 in a GF.
Cumberland averaged less a goal a game in 2023, and had 7 disposals in the 1 final he has played.
But yes Fritsch gets a game so Cumberlanfd should too.

Cumberland averages 1.5 goals a game not bad for a player who's only played 18 games.

So in the final that was his 9th game and had 7 disposals and 1 goal

So other names from that 2022 EF

Bolton had 10 disposals, 2 goals
Riewoldt had 8 disposals, 1 goal
Miller had 8 disposals and zero goals (12th game)
Gibcus had 8 disposals (18th game)
Tarrant had 6 disposals

Let's compare Rioli Junior. He has played 31 games and only kicked 21 goals at an ave of 0.7
Junior averages 2.7 tackles and Cumbo averages 2.2

Mansell has played 36 games and has only kicked 14 goals at ave of 0.4. Mansell averages 2.4 tackles a game

 

[Willo]

Cumberland averages 1.5 goals a game not bad for a player who's only played 18 games.

So in the final that was his 9th game and had 7 disposals and 1 goal

So other names from that 2022 EF

Bolton had 10 disposals, 2 goals
Riewoldt had 8 disposals, 1 goal
Miller had 8 disposals and zero goals (12th game)
Gibcus had 8 disposals (18th game)
Tarrant had 6 disposals

Let's compare Rioli Junior. He has played 31 games and only kicked 21 goals at an ave of 0.7
Junior averages 2.7 tackles and Cumbo averages 2.2

Mansell has played 36 games and has only kicked 14 goals at ave of 0.4. Mansell averages 2.4 tackles a game

Yeah but …um

 

[Brodders17]

Cumberland averages 1.5 goals a game not bad for a player who's only played 18 games.

So in the final that was his 9th game and had 7 disposals and 1 goal

So other names from that 2022 EF

Bolton had 10 disposals, 2 goals
Riewoldt had 8 disposals, 1 goal
Miller had 8 disposals and zero goals (12th game)
Gibcus had 8 disposals (18th game)
Tarrant had 6 disposals

Let's compare Rioli Junior. He has played 31 games and only kicked 21 goals at an ave of 0.7
Junior averages 2.7 tackles and Cumbo averages 2.2

Mansell has played 36 games and has only kicked 14 goals at ave of 0.4. Mansell averages 2.4 tackles a game

I'm not sure how to respond to a post that quotes tackle stats as if they mean Cumberland applies the same defensive pressure as MRJr or Mansell do.

 

[AstuteTiger]

I'm not sure how to respond to a post that quotes tackle stats as if they mean Cumberland applies the same defensive pressure as MRJr or Mansell do.

Lol, is that what you got out of my post only the tackle ave. It was one very very small component. I mention games played, goals, goals ave, tackle ave. The EF final players that didn't do all that much more than a 9 gamer.

Cumbos defensive output has been questioned but that was a total myth as he does apply pressure and tackles.

Manell has done *smile* all in 36 games for 14 goals. And his tackling is 2.2 ave to cumbos 2.0 hence the comparison.
Juniors pressure is top notch without that he would not be getting games. Junior has played 31 games for 21 goals.

Take the biased sunglasses off and see that others aren't doing that much more than Cumbo but still getting games.

I look forward to when Coulthard or Clarke replace Mansell. And I'd have combo ahead of him every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

 

[Sintiger]

I find it interesting to look at Fritsch’s output.
Obviously Fritsch has better body language, looks more relaxed and smiles more, and has much better hair.
He also looks like a man that knows he belongs and believes and doesn’t get flustered if he is not getting near it, head stays in the game - great coaching

And has played much better

 

[AstuteTiger]

And has played much better

You would want to hope at 27 years old and 132 games under your belt that kicking goals is a non-negotiable as he doesn't apply any defensive pressure.
So his one wood is kicking goals and let's face it most times he is a dead-eye *smile* in front of goals. Dee's forward line isn't that crash-hot but Fritsch is a damn good goal kicker.

 

[The_General]

Nope
Steely Green has been added to squad
Wed need another 15 injuries before Cumbo gets picked

So you admit it's possible he gets a game then. Not sure what all the angst is about@

 

[btoz_01]

So you admit it's possible he gets a game then. Not sure what all the angst is about@

I do admit it’s possible Cumbo gets a game after all our other AFL listed players are injured

 

[TheCan]

His attitude must freaking suck for him not to get a sniff

 

[The_General]

I do admit it’s possible Cumbo gets a game after all our other AFL listed players are injured

Apologies, maybe too subtle, but my post was meant to be ironic

 

[btoz_01]

His attitude must freaking suck for him not to get a sniff

We are supposed to have standards if Cumbo attitude stinks so much why hasn’t he been Capuanoed?

 

[tigerdell]

Maybe we could trade him for a draft pick.
First round defo.
And Adelaide, North and Hawks all open to trading so we might get top 5 for Cumbo!
Woohoo!!!

 

[tigerlove]

Maybe we could trade him for a draft pick.
First round defo.
And Adelaide, North and Hawks all open to trading so we might get top 5 for Cumbo!
Woohoo!!!

Cumbo is an unrestricted free agent as far as I'm aware. He's leaving alright and we'll be getting zilch for him.

 

[AngryAnt]

I'm not comparing apples with apples by the way. Merely stating both (medium forwards) have the ability to turn a game. Cumberland has only played 27 games (Fritsch 132), he averages 1.5 goals a game. in 27 of the games he's either been a sub or subbed in 5 of those, blows any of the existing small/medium forwards in our current side out of the water.

Being subbed five times is an interesting indicator in itself.

 

[Webbie26]

Its not his work rate or attitude thats an issue unfortunately its his IQ ive been told, to understand any role they want him to play. Has talent to burn but no idea how to play to any sort of direction or structure the coaches want.

 

[tigerlove]

Its not his work rate or attitude thats an issue unfortunately its his IQ ive been told, to understand any role they want him to play. Has talent to burn but no idea how to play to any sort of direction or structure the coaches want.

Has great IQ as a small forward, knows where to be in that role. Bit different to not playing your role which I suspect is his defensive side yet I've seen him play some great games defensively. He's checked out. It's the only reason I can think of he can't get a game with so many injuries, not even sub, that what values him bottom 4 or so on our list? . Has a great leap which would be really helpful atm with our tall shortage. None of Dusty, Rioli, Mansell, Baker have a leap whatsoever. It is what it is. Only interest now is which club does he go to at the end of the year.

 

[Webbie26]

Has great IQ as a small forward, knows where to be in that role. Bit different to not playing your role which I suspect is his defensive side yet I've seen him play some great games defensively. He's checked out. It's the only reason I can think of he can't get a game with so many injuries, not even sub, that what values him bottom 4 or so on our list? . Has a great leap which would be really helpful atm with our tall shortage. None of Dusty, Rioli, Mansell, Baker have a leap whatsoever. It is what it is. Only interest now is which club does he go to at the end of the year.

Im saying hes not the coldest beer in the fridge bud. And cant even understand simple i strucrtions of where to stand or patterns to run

 

[tigerlove]

Im saying hes not the coldest beer in the fridge bud. And cant even understand simple i strucrtions of where to stand or patterns to run

its his IQ ive been told

Ok, and your source is?