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Brandon Ellis

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would imagine Bobbles feeling a bit freaked out. he'd wanna stay deep down, but some extra coin is always nice.
 

tigerlove

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Actually, I don't reckon handballing to blokes under pressure is the Tigers' game plan. If you see the vision from behind the goals (shown during the ad break but available to view on Kayo), Rioli is forward of the play in acres of space with his arms outstretched appealing for the ball. Do you really reckon Baker's best option was to handpass 90cm when he had a much better option beyond the pack? Baker has a bit to learn in hot defensive situations, but he's new to the role so while he got that one wrong, he will learn from it.

You've missed the point. We play chaos ball. Expect the unexpected at all times. The handball went straight to Ellis. As usual he cr@pped himself under the slightest feeling of pressure and coughed the ball up which ended in a goal to the opposition. Most of our players would have secured the ball that hit them on the chest and forced a ball up. No excuse. You can forgive the odd occasion but Ellis is a regular under pressure. You have to be better in finals pressure or you'll get punished. Whether Baker made the right decision is a totally different discussion but we should remember that was just his 20th game and first final ever.
 
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zippadeee

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Anyone who reckons he should stay. Grab 2 Panadols and watch the 3rd qtr.
Out marked.
Gets caught holding the ball
broken tackle
 
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AngryAnt

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thats ridiculous. You don't drop a 174 game premiership wingman for a first year midfielder in a Prelim.



because he's not worth what he's asking for. its not rocket science.


It's more the fact that he's worth more to another team than to us, depending on needs, the list, salary cap etc. Brando has skills and talent, no doubt, and weaknesses too. But he's been a valuable player.
 
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Fair points, JG was 90% on Neale most of first quarter in general play, not fussed and agree about centre bounce set ups but Neale first goal was coz he got away and goal side of JG and Hardwicks assignment for JackG would have been to shadow and harass Neale and Zorko and to let Prestia and Shedds to have less responsibility and more firepower which worked treat.

Agree Jacks relentless pressure is very good BUT WITH getting it 14 times with no goals, no goal assists, no clearances, below average metres gained for a mid and 5 clangers...Simpson or Scott won't be losing any sleep over him. They won't be losing sleep over Ellis either of course, but to say Ellis played a woeful game but Jack was awesome annoys me. Jacks lack of pace minding class mids is just as much a concern to me as the Ellis lack of toughness....Thought they were both well below par in their roles. And both were terrible early but ok after that.
Ellis was crap. Woeful. Awful.
 
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Ice

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Bellis is definitely a fringe player these days. Last year, he came 26th in the best and fairest (on a votes per game basis).

If a winger in the VFL has a big game on Saturday, Bellis might be in trouble to retain his spot.

Personally I would be playing Menadue and Kmac on the wings this Saturday and see if they are up to it. I wouldn't worry about Naish or Turner at this point as they are unlikely to get a AFL game during the finals.
 
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glenn downing

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Anyone who reckons he should stay. Grab 2 Panadols and watch the 3rd qtr.
Out marked.
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broken tackle
The RFC had a magnificent 47 point victory over a very good opponent in a hostile environment in the QF. The club is now in a preliminary final. The club has won 10 games in a row in a brutally tough competition. The club has won 34 of the last 37 games at the MCG. The club is a very good chance of winning a premiership this year (even with Ellis in the team, as selected by the RFC match committee). Perhaps you could just try to enjoy the current situation and success of the RFC instead of torturing yourself (and the readers of the PRE forum) with your apparent negative obsession over Ellis.
 
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AngryAnt

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I think Ellis stays in as there is no obvious in-form replacement in the VFL - Kmac hasn't done much, Menadue is OK on recent form but would you trust him in tough prelim against the Weagles?

Dimma doesn't make panic decisions pre finals games any more.
 
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eddazol

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I think Ellis stays in as there is no obvious in-form replacement in the VFL - Kmac hasn't done much, Menadue is OK on recent form but would you trust him in tough prelim against the Weagles?

Dimma doesn't make panic decisions pre finals games any more.
Agree antman
 

lukeanddad

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Dimma doesn't make panic decisions pre finals games any more.
Could be argued he/MC did make a panic decision 2 finals ago.

The only possible change is Kmac for Brando. But, as you say, he has not set the world on fire in the VFL.
 

The_General

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Zips got his wish.

He'll be at Gold Coast next year. 4 years, 2.5 mill.

Made his decision this week.
 

The_General

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Do we keep him in the team because of this? BF says 5 year deal.
Nope. It's 625k a year, for 4 years.

We play our best side to win a premiership. Who cares about 2020 right now.
 
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Baron Samedi

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Ellis can let himself down when under pressure. *smile* himself.

We all know it and so do the coaches.

But Dimma loves him in the side. It makes him sleep better at night.

Why? Because Ellis is critical, critical, to our game plan.

When the oppo get the ball off us, we assume our defensive structure like lightning. Quickest in the league.

Ellis is a guy we depend on to make position all game. He will run to position all day long. He releases Lambert into the forward 50 and allows Houli to play back.

Most of what Ellis does is just run. No one sees the hole he takes, the second option the oppo must take.

Structure is bible to Hardwick. Ellis is the book of genesis.
 
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TigerForce

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Ellis can let himself down when under pressure. **** himself.

We all know it and so do the coaches.

But Dimma loves him in the side. It makes him sleep better at night.

Why? Because Ellis is critical, critical, to our game plan.

When the oppo get the ball off us, we assume our defensive structure like lightning. Quickest in the league.

Ellis is a guy we depend on to make position all game. He will run to position all day long. He releases Lambert into the forward 50 and allows Houli to play back.

Most of what Ellis does is just run. No one sees the hole he takes, the second option the oppo must take.

Structure is bible to Hardwick. Ellis is the book of genesis.
That's why I'd like to keep him and finish off with us, but ....it's his choice. No big loss in the overall picture.
 

DavidSSS

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Playing Dusty in last year's PF was the right decision, you don't leave out your gun player if he can possibly play in a PF. Yep, a risk, but you need to take risks in finals. Imagine if we left him out, in a game where the prize is a spot in the GF. Wouldn't have won the game anyway, we were off and Collingwood were really good.

The thing with Ellis is that he is very variable, he needs to be harder at the ball and he had a howler last week. But there simply isn't anyone putting their hand up for his place so I figure he stays in. Someone would need to play an absolute blinder to drop Ellis, and you can be certain Ellis is getting pressure from the coaches.

DS
 
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AngryAnt

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Very similar to what K-Mac does in terms of defensive gut running to structure. KMac is an enigma, sometimes a huge doofus, sometimes looks a million bucks. But unlike Ellis he makes others fear him.

If Ellis leaves I wonder where that leaves KMac.