Does the flu ever overwhelm health systems where people lie dying in hallways and makeshift hospitals built as we are seeing with covid?
Spot on Harry. Anyone who says this is just the flu hasn't been paying attention.
Does the flu ever overwhelm health systems where people lie dying in hallways and makeshift hospitals built as we are seeing with covid?
Someone just explained it on the programme on Channel 10 around isolation and it was really impactful. I didn't quite get the maths (and I'm a stats guy) but you get the gist.
Flu with the 1.4 once it gets to I think they said 10 transmissions down you've infected 14 people or it might have been 140, but Corona infects 59,000. The issue isn't that this is that much more devastating than the flu (its definitely worse) but the problem with it is the extreme level of infectiveness (not sure that's a word) is way way higher than the flu.
Yep he's signed the Defense Production Act and talking crap on twitter but as yet he hasn't compelled any company to start making anything.
How many? Where? Why?Does the flu ever overwhelm health systems where people lie dying in hallways and makeshift hospitals built as we are seeing with covid?
We are living in dangerous times, and in my view on numbers that are underwhelming.
The WHO has already said explicitly that COVID does not spread as fast as the flu. Directly from the WHO situation update on 6th March.
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Yes the RO for COVID is about double the flu, which means you can pass it on to twice as many people.
BUT
The incubation period is longer, which means it takes longer before you can pass it on,
and
Pre-symptomatic transmission of the flu is likley, whereas pre-symptomatic (and asymptomatic) cases are not seen as major drivers of transmission of COVID
and
Socially mobile children who are important links in flu transmission do not appear to important in COVID transmission.
The maths says you might pass COVID onto twice as many people as the flu, but you will pass the flu on more than twice as fast which is why the WHO can confidently and explicitly say
"This means that influenza can spread faster than COVID 19".
Lefty love in??Can we shelve the Lefty politics love in and move it to the politics board.
Its getting pretty tiresome on
Seeing that we won, hanging **** on that will never get old.
Then why are so few people being infected compared to the flu?COVID-19 causes more severe disease than seasonal influenza.
While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease.
Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected.
you may have noticed people arent going out as much as usual?Then why are so few people being infected compared to the flu?
Can we shelve the Lefty politics love in and move it to the politics board.
Its getting pretty tiresome on
How many? Where? Why?
You are happy to declare a situation overwhelming, when does the economic cost become overwhelming Harry? When the number of livelihoods lost = the number of COVID deaths, or when it -equals the number of COVID cases, or when it equals a million, 10 million, a 100 million.
Lots of people are already in social isolation and are told by the authorities that they should be. How long before individuals stop feeling isolated from society and start feeling alienated by that society? A society where the well paid in secure jobs are making decisions for the tens of millions on behalf of tens of thousands. How many individuals need to feel they are not part of the society that rules them out of a livelihood before it becomes overwhelming.
We have gone from hoarding dunny roll, to looting in Sicilly, to skirmishes between police from Hubei and the neighboring province on the border over who is stopping the Hubei people crossing the border for work. This morning I play golf (solo on a par 3 course that is only allowed 12 players at a time, and pairs are only allowed if they live together) we are surveilled by a police drone to see if we are observing social isolation.
We are living in dangerous times, and in my view on numbers that are underwhelming.
IT doesn't spread to more people, thats exactly the point. The flu infects about a billion people a year. How many COVID cases are there, we haven't reached a million yet. Its been in the wild for three months and is already in 140 countries. If it spreads faster to people like you say, why hasn't it?THE MAP IS NOT THE TERRITORY. Yes flu spreads "faster" but COVID-19 spreads much more, literally to more people. But there has been enough said on here about why the differences matter. Anyone still arguing the "flu vs Covid-19" is just being argumentative or stubborn at this stage.
And then there is stuff like this:
"There were still traces of coronavirus on the Diamond Princess cruise ship 17 days after it emptied of passengers, according to a new study by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The finding suggests the virus can persist on surfaces for a lot longer than previously thought."
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/...on-surfaces-for-a-lot-longer-than-we-thought/
Refute my numbers with numbers, not news items.My god. I didn't realise this was affecting your golf game.
You really need to stop the horrendous garbage posting.
Given the unprecedented pressure on hospitals, funeral homes and crematoriums around Madrid, an ice rink in the city has been transformed into a temporary morgue. Palacio de Hielo, as it is known, received the first coffins on Monday. The freezing temperatures are expected to protect the bodies until funeral homes have the capacity to bury or cremate them.
?? I must have missed it. Are you saying you can have a discussion about a global pandemic that is politics free? If so, that is unbelievably naive.