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Jack Riewoldt [Merged]

achillesjones

"just kick it to Royce"
Apr 19, 2004
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Has many many credits in the bank. Early days to be writing a champion off! Those who see him as petulant and selfish are not seeing the Jack I see. Like Richo, he can get down on himself, but that is what true passion and high expectation does to a player.
 
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kiwitiger

Go the AllBlacks, the Storm , and the Tigers.
Jul 28, 2004
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The concern for me ,

starting to get that look where the body cant do what it used to , unless there is a niggle and that is why.

But surely they would rest him if that is the case
 
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zippadeee

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Oct 8, 2004
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I've never been that fond of Jack. Richo was often called selfish etc but was misunderstood and was loved by 99% Of fans at the end of his career. Not the same with Jack,. his petulance has always had a more selfish basis for me.

Has been a star footballer, one of the smartest I've seen but I won't be shedding too many tears when he goes.

3 Coleman's 2 flags and you won't miss him?
Jack will go down as a great of our club.
 
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leon

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Apr 6, 2014
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I agree with that. Fine player but hard to like as a bloke, in person, in the media or on the field.

Truly great player, not fine. And I disagree, think he's very likeable in all respects. Loyal and dedicated Richmond man who has given his all to this club. Speaks his mind, smart and honest. Doesn't suffer fools. Just likes to win and sometimes prepared to go right to the edge to do so.

So the whole Covid lockdown has affected him - because he's intelligent and a thinker.
 
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leon

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I guess 'like-ability' is really a subjective thing in the eye of the beholder so we can all agree to disagree on that.

In terms of his status as a player I guess it depends on definition. I see him as a second tier player, ie if 'great' is the best of the best eg Dustin, Royce Hart then Jack is on the next rung.

No disputing first point but I'll concede Jack was a liitle egocentric in his early years and said or did a couple of silly things but hey, most of us grow and learn to mature. It can't be easy growing up in the public eye in another state away from your parents and family.

I also have no qualms with your 2nd point: I used the term 'great' but I put Royce and Dusty into the living legends category along with only a handful of of others such as Richo, KB, Bourke from my lifetime and actually seeing play live many times.

However, thinking of it more, JR8 may well be elevated into this Legnd tier by the time his career ends. It might depend a little on how he goes from here and if he can regain form and wind up his career near his high rather than decline quickly and be washed up in the next year or so. When you think about it, his time at RFC has coincided with the club's return to greatness and 2 flags - during which he has often had to succeed as the one and only tall forward, which he has achieved superbly overall. Along with turning into a great team-first player, involved in creating and setting up as many goals for others as himself once Hardwick asked to him change his focus, lay tackle/blocks/ handball/ passes etc. Even the great Richo, as good as he was, did not manage to achieve as much, although he wasn't fortunate in terms of as many of our current greats coming onto their prime concurrently with him.

Only time will tell.
 
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Quickdraw

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Nothing wrong with having a healthy ego, especially when you've got the talent and smarts to go with it.

Ego is not a dirty word.
 

AngryAnt

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yeah, he's borderline all-time great for me. Like you say Leon carried the forward line for years, got the Colemans, played the team role with great unselfishness in our return to power.
 
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TT33

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Royce Hart wrote a book at age 23 & said how good he was, I remember him being roundly criticized for it at the time.

He continued on to be one of the greatest players ever to play the game imo.

"Ego is not a dirty word" as said by the great band Skyhooks al those years ago. I agree. If a player doesn't have a certain amount of ego he'll never achieve his best.

However, some blokes egos outstrip their ability.
 
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Fighting Fury

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Jul 17, 2003
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2017 GF...those stellar marks at pivotal times, those run-down tackles when the game was white-hot...if he had kicked straight he would have been right in the middle of the NS discussion.
My opinion... Jackmond is a great of the Club, and as a dual (potentially triple) premiership hero with Colemans will go to Legend status in the next decade or two.
 
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MD Jazz

Don't understand football? Talk to the hand.
Feb 3, 2017
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3 Coleman's 2 flags and you won't miss him?
Jack will go down as a great of our club.

I'm sorry I don't love all players equally. Not challenging his playing record but I won't miss him like most others.

I was devastated when Richo retired, now there's a real Richmond man. Now there's a Legend.
 
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Smoking Aces

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Sep 21, 2007
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Two players I shed a tear for when they retired - Knights and Richo.

The third will be for Martin.
 
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zippadeee

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I'm sorry I don't love all players equally. Not challenging his playing record but I won't miss him like most others.

I was devastated when Richo retired, now there's a real Richmond man. Now there's a Legend.

Spot on.
Not everyone will like every player on the list.