10 million infections & half a million deaths ticked over during the night.
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That's fairly informative without breaching privacy. Known clusters = CedarMeats, families in Brimbank/Broady etc. 1 returned traveller - which is pretty low given the angst on here about returned travellers. 13 from walk-ins to testing, you'd imagine these would be part of the 19 being investigated or contact traced.
What would you like to see in case reporting? What's missing? Genuine question.
Looks like EZ was spot on with the durries - sharing a ciggie lighter to blame
www.news.com.au
Innocent act that contributed to virus spike
Victoria’s virus spike is continuing to worsen, and authorities today revealed an innocent act which they believe contributed to the current outbreak.
www.news.com.au
There is clear evidence that taking action will have an impact. The USA, being a large country, large population, states with substantial power and a federal government in denial, grossly incompetent and barely doing anything about a national approach to this means we can see the comparison.
New York was hit very badly, closed down and has managed to flatten the curve:
In contrast, Florida never really flattened the curve and then started opening up because, you know, the economy is more important than people:
The risk of a second wave is real in New York, as we can see here. Fortunately the second wave in Victoria is, so far, less than the first wave. Hopefully we can get it back under control. It is good to see the government doing a lot of testing even though this is likely to give us worse numbers for the short term, what it will do is to give us the data to help slow the second wave. It is also nice to see transparency from the Victorian government, they are giving out the data on where the new infections are coming from, and, rather than hiding or obfuscating, are being honest when they just don't have enough data to know the cause of a fair number of cases. Telling us they don't know is taking a risk of looking foolish, but it is the right thing to do.
DS
New York was hit very badly, closed down and has managed to flatten the curve:
In contrast, Florida never really flattened the curve and then started opening up because, you know, the economy is more important than people:
The risk of a second wave is real in New York, as we can see here. Fortunately the second wave in Victoria is, so far, less than the first wave. Hopefully we can get it back under control. It is good to see the government doing a lot of testing even though this is likely to give us worse numbers for the short term, what it will do is to give us the data to help slow the second wave. It is also nice to see transparency from the Victorian government, they are giving out the data on where the new infections are coming from, and, rather than hiding or obfuscating, are being honest when they just don't have enough data to know the cause of a fair number of cases. Telling us they don't know is taking a risk of looking foolish, but it is the right thing to do.
DS
The expected place to see the spikes is where the virus is and where it coincides with the areas where people are not disciplined.
You highlight 4 protests out of how many? Cherry picking for your own narrative again.
If what you post is true, is it good fortune, or good management?
Show me the evidence then, should be easy.
They were the four key protest sites in the source i quoted, I cherry-picked nothing. Read the source for yourself, it would benefit your argument. These spikes have more to do with poor social distances and the insane approach of many republicans seeing wearing a mask as an admission of weakness and an infringement of their constitutional rights. The BLM protestors and organisers mostly wore masks.
Meanwhile your hero Trump still claims there is nothing to worry about and it will all just "go away".
Still need to kep things in perspective.
The USA had 46,000 new cases in past 24 hours.
2,525,700 total cases so far..
The USA had 46,000 new cases in past 24 hours.
2,525,700 total cases so far..
A running list of active cases with positive test date, suburb of residence, suspected place of transmission, any relationship to other infections, age, hospitalised y/n.
Also a daily tally of tests conducted per suburb.
"13 from routine testing" means absolutely nothing alongside "19 under investigation". These are separate groups: 8 + 1 + 13 + 19 = 41.
At the moment it's a lot of numbers that are difficult to make sense of.
Would be interesting to know what they mean about "under investigation". Your top line is interesting data for sure but most of the public wouldn't care about this level of detail. Policy makers, health care professionals would and they would have access to this I'd reckon.
could be worse, we could be living in Trumpistan where they are running 10s of thousands of new cases every day, the leader is still saying "it will go away". Trump eh.
He aint my hero cobbar. He is was what the yanks voted for though. In their democratic country.
You are hung up on him more than any poster i know.
You do understand that this is a pandemic hey? You have mentioned a few times that its an epidemic, there is a difference yeah.
The protesters are fantastic examples of what society needs. Good on them for being so disciplined with all of them wearing masks. Hooray.
Nah, you love him. That's OK, each to their own. You also want to pin the growth of the spread on BLM - again, an ideological position not supported by any evidence.
A pandemic is an epidemic that crosses national borders to become global - at the local level there is not much difference between them. As for BLM, yep - they've done fantastically well in many ways, including in Australia.
The info is titillating at best, it doesn't really give the full picture which is what i want to know.
Victoria is in a world of hurt, but it could be anyone next week so everyone needs to keep their guard up.
You know who i love? Sweet.
You know so much.
There is a time and a place for all voices to be heard, now and 3 weeks ago is/was an irresponsible time for mass protests. I support the idea behind BLM, I dont support the message that it has morphed into.
Im still chuckling at you claiming the evidence is all yours based on 4 protest sites.
Disagree as i know you will.
Its not conclusive, either way.
The protests in Australia were irresponsible and imprudent. There were other options that would habe eliminated risking more lives.
Victoria is suffering from "something" that changed in the strategy used to contain the virus, maybe the timeline is absolutely a pure coincidence.
I hope time will tell.
