I'm stoked with those two, so far it's looking like a good haul.
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I thought then and still do now that Banks and Brown are basically the same players. We needed JVR as a key forward.
We are still looking for that player today.
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played a great game in the Vfl grand final yesterday .............what a pick up ............they are developing him nicely ......big boyStill very keen on Jacob Van Rooyen. 36.12 as a key forward in year one of the VFL. That's super impressive.
Spoke to someone involved with Casey/Melbourne and the Dees see JVR playing a lot of footy next year as a key forward. And there was a push fro him to play this year, quite a few people were bewildered he didn't get a look at AFL.
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He's been terrific looking at those numbers, responded to every positional change & projects as a true swingman, that probably spells the end for Ben Brown.
If Ashcroft gets called out 1 or 2,Brisbane will loose there first 3rounds,so how are they going to please bulldogs, even there first in 2023 isn't enough has they might go into deficit.
I confess I initially only watched the third quarter of that match after reading that Keeler lit it up. Confirmation bias, mea culpa. But I watched the first quarter last night and Foster was consistently beaten at around the ground ruck contests by his smaller opponent (not Keeler). Doesn't look to have a great leap going by that, although to be fair he wasn't jumping, he was just standing and reaching. He is a good mark and a nice kick but yeah, ground game is pretty important, don't think you can be just a kick-mark player these days. I'll have to take a closer look at him.
Yeah, excellent numbers. I only saw his game against us, when Biggie gave him a bit of a touch-up. Which is probably more good for Biggie than bad for JVR.Still very keen on Jacob Van Rooyen. 36.12 as a key forward in year one of the VFL. That's super impressive.
Spoke to someone involved with Casey/Melbourne and the Dees see JVR playing a lot of footy next year as a key forward. And there was a push fro him to play this year, quite a few people were bewildered he didn't get a look at AFL.
- Jacob van Rooyen
Brown is a beautiful kick, great mark, quick, smart, etc. Has elite traits. But otherwise agree on the anti-flanker bias. If JVR becomes a player Brown will have to be a star to justify the call.
I think the big difference between Francis Jackson & Matthew Clarke has been in the tall stocks department, Jackson averaged 1 key position player every draft, even right up until his last year he correctly identified the potential rivers of gold. I'd even put the Moore/Chol selections as one of his biggest hits, grabbing a couple of rough diamonds, having them compete against one another & then promoting the best option, in this case it was the classy kicking which won the battle.
Van Rooyen was a must-have in the event we went small at pick 9, I bought into the forward potential of Gibcus & I'm still hanging onto some hope in this regard, his goal kicking showed some promise this year & I think it's worth investing more time into this transition.
Could we have gone the twin towers with the first two picks? Absolutely, it will be one of those defining moments & I suspect will become more pronounced in the event we struggle with a Jack replacement. I prefer homegrown talents, I think it's a dangerous strategy to assume you will land another Lynch or Cameron, those deals come around once a decade.
SEN reporting North Draft compensation is in, as well as the extra 2 rookies they get access to this year they will receive additional 2nd & 3rd round picks in FUTURE year that have to be traded.
The good news is we will retain pick 19 the 1st pick in round 2 of this year's draft, (which we will need to trade anyway but makes it slightly more valuable).
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The good news is we will retain pick 19 the 1st pick in round 2 of this year's draft, (which we will need to trade anyway but makes it slightly more valuable).
Revealed: North’s draft assistance package
The AFL has granted North Melbourne future draft picks that must be traded for listed players as part of a special assistance package approved today.
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I think he's done everything asked of him from a performance perspective, I just question whether he's a pack splitter who will demand the best defender. 192cm is short in this day and age, it's in that Darling/Membrey range which is more in line with the third tall role, still a viable position but not quite a like for like replacement for a triple Coleman medalist.
Foster had 21 disposals 7 marks 3 which where contested and had 15 hit outs and kicked 3 goals and had 7 inside 50.
keeler had 21 disposals 3 marks 7 hit outs and 4 inside 50's .
Foster for the season has kicked 26goals out of 11 games and Keeler 19 out of 15 games .
Foster had 47 marks which nearly half where contested ,Keeler had 67marks from 15 games 11 where contested .
I think with the draft picks we will have after trade week,Foster might be a good pick up with pick 30 and later.
Van Rooyen has done very well and good luck to him but he has played in a very dominant experienced team with the likes of Mitch Brown, Sam Weidemann and Tom McDonald in the forward line with him so that certainly would of helped. I bet Jacob Bauer would of loved that luxury even though I still think he is a third leading forward rather than a key position player.Still very keen on Jacob Van Rooyen. 36.12 as a key forward in year one of the VFL. That's super impressive.
Spoke to someone involved with Casey/Melbourne and the Dees see JVR playing a lot of footy next year as a key forward. And there was a push fro him to play this year, quite a few people were bewildered he didn't get a look at AFL.
- Jacob van Rooyen
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From the stats posted up, it appears JVR played mainly in defence and yet kicked 36 goals for the season?
Not sure how that works?
I reckon VC will really push them.2022 NAB AFL National Championships U18 Boys title-decider set for Marvel Stadium on Thursday
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This is great discussion and one which needs more attention, one of the reasons I kept running with the team building exercise was to ascertain the ease or difficulty one may face in filling out the spine, it has turned out to be more difficult than it first seems but if you keep adding each year you create depth & as in the case of Chol, tangible currency that can be used to improve your drafting position.
2016 Peter Ladhams
2017 Sam Taylor
2018 Bailey Williams
These were the picks that I would have made, nothing radical but important nevertheless, I even think Clarke can claw back the CCJ selection if he spends pick 19 wisely, a bit like the Vickery pick which turned into Shai Bolton. Using that capital on Taranto not the smartest play in my opinion, Keeler is the go (if he does in fact last that long).
One of the great advantages with talls is that they hold their value, the Ladhams bounty still going as Port will get Sydney's third rounder to go with pick 12 (in exchange for pick 16). Not bad for a junk pick.
Francis Jackson's methodology has stood the test of time, he prioritised the spine which makes sense from a supply perspective & also to have your team clicking simultaneously (talls always take longer). Grab the hard pieces first, if in doubt go tall, use the rookie draft to cultivate some big men & create value with a rare commodity.
So far Clarke has Balta & Gibcus to his name, not bad but still on the lean side compared to 2006-2012, this shortfall needs to be addressed but if we go spending all our picks for 2023 it will place immense pressure on Blair Hartley to fill in the gaps.
2016 Peter Ladhams
2017 Sam Taylor
2018 Bailey Williams
These were the picks that I would have made, nothing radical but important nevertheless, I even think Clarke can claw back the CCJ selection if he spends pick 19 wisely, a bit like the Vickery pick which turned into Shai Bolton. Using that capital on Taranto not the smartest play in my opinion, Keeler is the go (if he does in fact last that long).
One of the great advantages with talls is that they hold their value, the Ladhams bounty still going as Port will get Sydney's third rounder to go with pick 12 (in exchange for pick 16). Not bad for a junk pick.
Francis Jackson's methodology has stood the test of time, he prioritised the spine which makes sense from a supply perspective & also to have your team clicking simultaneously (talls always take longer). Grab the hard pieces first, if in doubt go tall, use the rookie draft to cultivate some big men & create value with a rare commodity.
So far Clarke has Balta & Gibcus to his name, not bad but still on the lean side compared to 2006-2012, this shortfall needs to be addressed but if we go spending all our picks for 2023 it will place immense pressure on Blair Hartley to fill in the gaps.
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Yeah, I don't think Keeler is a great ruckman at this stage. But he was key in just about every Roosters score as they took over in the third.
He seems to be pretty good at ground level, there's plenty to work with on that front.
Heard from a strong source that we really wanted Darcy Wilmont with our 2nd pick.
Don’t think JVR was in our thinking but totally agree that another HBF was an odd choice.
Thank God Sonsie was available at pick 28 to balance things out.
I was leaning towards Buzzo with our last pick based on our needs and to add flexibility.
Of course I’d pick Marcus Windhager if I had my time again
Gibcus & Sonsie is a good nucleus to work with, I also think Judson looks AFL quality, Matthew Clarke already gets a pass mark for this draft but the question of key position talent is still one which cannot be neglected however, Jack has one year left, Lynch will be the wrong side of 30 next year, Grimes also approaching retirement age. All of Jackson's key position talent about to disappear from view leaving the cupboard relatively bare. Now assuming that talls take 4 years & we're about to wipe out 2 drafts, I'm feeling a bit nervous about what the future may hold, it's one of the reasons I'm adamant about keeping our pick 12 this year (at a bare minimum). If we're serious about the future then it's at least 1 key position talent, ideally 2. That won't happen of course, we're committed to Taranto & Hopper, unless we have a rabbit up the sleeve it will be left up to Hartley to address, he definitely has his work cut out.
