2022 draft booms and busts

[bullus_hit]

Another boom - Lemmy.

You don’t lose ability over night. You can’t judge a kid on one bad year of footy.

Especially key position players, I think he's done enough to suggest significant upside, that's all I'm looking for at junior level. I thought he showed a bit of character against Collingwood ressies, pushed himself up the ground to get involved. The state form lack lustre but let's not forget the fact SA were pedestrian this year, forwards need solid supply, I don't think that was forthcoming. When on song Lemmey looks the part, he strikes me as a viable centre half forward with some ability to pinch hit in the ruck.

 

[eZyT]

Another boom - Lemmy.

You don’t lose ability over night. You can’t judge a kid on one bad year of footy.

You may not lose ability,

But you can peaked at 16 or 17

Its not that uncommon

The art of recruitment is picking the kid that is on an upward trajectory towards a peak in 5 years

 

[Smoking Aces]

You may not lose ability,

But you can peaked at 16 or 17

Its not that uncommon

The art of recruitment is picking the kid that is on an upward trajectory towards a peak in 5 years

Look at the Sonz. Prior his draft year he was a top 5 pick. Before the draft even the minnow clubs were overlooking him.

Peaked? Kid has barely scratched the surface.

 

[Redford]

Look at the Sonz. Prior his draft year he was a top 5 pick. Before the draft even the minnow clubs were overlooking him.

Peaked? Kid has barely scratched the surface.

He has immense ability. His kicking is elite for a big guy. And he covers the ground real well also for someone 200cm.

But he’s gotta toughen up. Needs to impose himself physically a bit more, especially with the ball hanging over his head in the air and guys jumping into him. Contested marking. Good on a soft, hit up lead, but not so good when under the ball.

If he can do that, he’ll be an almighty bargain for someone.

 

[Smoking Aces]

He has immense ability. His kicking is elite for a big guy. And he covers the ground real well also for someone 200cm.

But he’s gotta toughen up. Needs to impose himself physically a bit more, especially with the ball hanging over his head in the air and guys jumping into him. Contested marking. Good on a soft, hit up lead, but not so good when under the ball.

If he can do that, he’ll be an almighty bargain for someone.

I would be staggered if he gets past pick 40.

 

[eZyT]

Look at the Sonz. Prior his draft year he was a top 5 pick. Before the draft even the minnow clubs were overlooking him.

Public school.

Would have dropped his g's in interviews.

 

[Dont Argue]

He has immense ability. His kicking is elite for a big guy. And he covers the ground real well also for someone 200cm.

But he’s gotta toughen up. Needs to impose himself physically a bit more, especially with the ball hanging over his head in the air and guys jumping into him. Contested marking. Good on a soft, hit up lead, but not so good when under the ball.

If he can do that, he’ll be an almighty bargain for someone.

Hope he’s not a Josh Schache clone.
Good lead up forward but no other tricks

 

[eZyT]

Hope he’s not a Josh Schache clone.
Good lead up forward but no other tricks

If another club takes him, i really hope hes half josh scache clone and half jon patton clone and the bottom half is the jon patton bit

 

[Little Ziggyadee]

No busts, We don't have a 1st round pick

 

[bullus_hit]

Boom

1. Lachie Cowan
2. Elijah Hewett
3. Elijah Tsatas

I've selected these players given I think they will be selected lower than their ceilings would suggest, Tsatas goes top 5 but could wind up being the best of the lot. The loopy kicking not a concern for me, coming back from a lay-off with stress fractures I think he deserves some benefit of the doubt. Shai Bolton also had loopy kicking but that quite clearly has turned out to be a red herring.

Bust

1. Lewis Hayes
2. Jaspa Fletcher
3. Reuben Ginbey

Hayes is a steer clear for me, aside from his combine collapse I detect a serious lack of athleticism, Sam Hayes was also a poor athlete so none of this surprises me. Fletcher is a bet meh, nothing stands out from an elite perspective. I think to make the grade he would need to compensate for his vanilla play with elite production, I personally don't see it. Ginbey screams flanker trap, decent bet outside of the top 10 but if he goes at 6 like suggested then I feel it's overs.

Now for the Richmond specific boom/bust assessment.

Boom

1. Harry Lemmey
2. Jaxon Binns
3. Tom McCallum
4. Billy Dowling

If we manage to secure 2 from this group then we have smashed the draft, I see best 22 with even a hint of A grade talent, fingers crossed.

Bust
1. Adam D'Aloia
2. Tom Scully
3. Hugh Bond
4. Olivier Northam

This group has a few concerns, D'Aloia probably too one paced for AFL footy, Scully gives me a Zach Sproule vibe & doesn't seem to be an authoritative one clunk mark. Having seen guys like McBean, Vickery & Coleman-Jones struggle for a fixed position I'm sitting on the sidelines with this one. Hugh Bond feels like a poor man's Duncan Kellaway, I'm not so sure you go out & deliberately target a tagger either, that seems like extreme narrow casting. Northam probably a fraction too short for the ruck & not imposing enough for a tall forward role.

 

[bengal tigers]

You haven't seen much of Bond ,Bullus ?.
He's not a tagger,he played hb in the champs in a couple of matches ,and was really good,shut his opponent out of the game while picking up possessions .
At nab level he's a midfielder ,he's a very good defensive mid ,but also has a attacking side to his game,plus he can run all day and isn't too bad overhead.

There is nothing flash about his game ,but his skills are quite good ,and he is consistent.

 

[bullus_hit]

You haven't seen much of Bond ,Bullus ?.
He's not a tagger,he played hb in the champs in a couple of matches ,and was really good,shut his opponent out of the game while picking up possessions .
At nab level he's a midfielder ,he's a very good defensive mid ,but also has a attacking side to his game,plus he can run all day and isn't too bad overhead.

There is nothing flash about his game ,but his skills are quite good ,and he is consistent.

My main concern with Bond is the efficiency by foot, I admire his defensive work, his work ethic & his tackling pressure but if he is played as a back flanker I'm concerned his disposal might be fractionally short of AFL standard. As a midfielder you could entertain a De Boer type existence but instances such as these are fairly remote in the scheme of things. Perhaps I'm being overly harsh, his running capacity is elite, I don't think there will be too many issues with an AFL workload. I've made some direct comparisons with Byrne-Jones who was also an elite endurance runner & the main distinction would probably be agility, Byrne-Jones had a very eye catching side step, I haven't seen too much of that from Bond although I'm happy to stand corrected given you're at the coalface at the Rebels. Kicking depth is another issue & is why I used the Duncan Kellaway comparison.

 

[bengal tigers]

My main concern with Bond is the efficiency by foot, I admire his defensive work, his work ethic & his tackling pressure but if he is played as a back flanker I'm concerned his disposal might be fractionally short of AFL standard. As a midfielder you could entertain a De Boer type existence but instances such as these are fairly remote in the scheme of things. Perhaps I'm being overly harsh, his running capacity is elite, I don't think there will be too many issues with an AFL workload. I've made some direct comparisons with Byrne-Jones who was also an elite endurance runner & the main distinction would probably be agility, Byrne-Jones had a very eye catching side step, I haven't seen too much of that from Bond although I'm happy to stand corrected given you're at the coalface at the Rebels. Kicking depth is another issue & is why I used the Duncan Kellaway comparison.

Actually his kicking isn't too bad ,it pops up every year in discussions about inside mid types ,their disposal by foot is questioned ,give him a bit of space and he hits targets ,even it tight situations he gets the ball to a team mate or forces a ball up.

 

[Redford]

Actually his kicking isn't too bad ,it pops up every year in discussions about inside mid types ,their disposal by foot is questioned ,give him a bit of space and he hits targets ,even it tight situations he gets the ball to a team mate or forces a ball up.

There’s actually a few instances in the VC v VM game where, under plenty of time, he hits his team mate targets perfectly. Kicking action looks ok enough. Can be worked with.

I ummed and aah’d over selecting him in the phantom draft because of his kicking but in the end decided it was “passable”. (See how I did that ?)

 

[King Kong]

No busts, We don't have a 1st round pick

Excellent
No chance of another 1st Rd dud like
Meyer
Pattison
Fiora
JON
Conca
Lennon
C Ellis
Higgins
RCD
Despite our success we are the kings of the 1st round busts

The lesson learnt here is we should never pick a 1st rounder from VIC M, SA or WA. ViC Country only. We’ve never had a dud 1st rounder from Vic C. Before anyone mentions Dow he is still on the list so doesn’t count

 

[tigersnake]

Excellent
No chance of another 1st Rd dud like
Meyer
Pattison
Fiora
JON
Conca
Lennon
C Ellis
Higgins
RCD
Despite our success we are the kings of the 1st round busts

The lesson learnt here is we should never pick a 1st rounder from VIC M, SA or WA. ViC Country only. We’ve never had a dud 1st rounder from Vic C. Before anyone mentions Dow he is still on the list so doesn’t count

Bulldust. This is a myth you are intent on believing despite evidence to the contrary. You still believe in Santa?

 

[Redford]

Bulldust. This is a myth you are intent on believing despite evidence to the contrary. You still believe in Santa?

Santa ? I believe in Santa. What….what…are you saying ?????

 

[King Kong]

Bulldust. This is a myth you are intent on believing despite evidence to the contrary. You still believe in Santa?

Which part is BS?

Happy for you to explain which of the players listed was worthy of their 1st round pick?

In your explanation please explain why they were picked ahead of the next 6 players taken immediately after them

 

[eZyT]

Actually his kicking isn't too bad ,it pops up every year in discussions about inside mid types ,their disposal by foot is questioned ,give him a bit of space and he hits targets ,even it tight situations he gets the ball to a team mate or forces a ball up.

I havnt seen this kid kick,

But its a good point.

They train the 'blast kick'. No time or room, no apparent options, blast.

Ashcroft, like most things, does this kick very well.

The blast kick doesnt have to hit a target, but ideally it doesnt turn over. Territory, stoppage, reset.

And we all go 'he panics and hacks it'

 

[tigersnake]

Which part is BS?

Happy for you to explain which of the players listed was worthy of their 1st round pick?

In your explanation please explain why they were picked ahead of the next 6 players taken immediately after them

Mate I went over it with a fine tooth comb on the draft thread months ago.