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2024 Draft Thread
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I maintain my view on the points system. The actual points allocated weren't the issue, the obvious discount was the issue. There was double dipping gains only going to the bidding team, but providing value for picks all the way through the 1st 4 rounds, gave a market to other clubs to trade up and get better value out of their later picks.
Personally I think (as they usually do) the AFL have screwed it up again. They have largely taken the opportunity away from those other clubs, and still provide a discount to the bidding clubs. Sure, its going to have an effect to make bidding clubs pay more, but they had several avenues they could have done that with, but they are essentially almost trying to kill off the secondary trading market, which wasn't the part that was the problem. The problem was the inequity in what was being paid vs what the player gain was. They could have done that through removing discounts completely, adding premiums for additional players selected etc, without affecting the current points value index, which was setup to increase pick trading which IMO is a good thing.
Yes so with virtually 2 guaranteed top 8 picks next year they are even more valuable, the talent will still be there early but decline quickly, (we have already traded out our future 2nd and 3rd picks).
So basing it on this season's ladder position we would have 3 picks with points value, 1,2
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We haven't picked a ruck in the national draft for 30 years, it's not a failure if you don't buy a ticket. I can never recall a club suffering from having too many talls, this is just hyperbole. Clubs with depth have trade bait, that's a better way to view things.
You still have to be able to play them. No point drafting players and not playing them in the AFL or VFL.
Totally agree. No way we take another key forward (ie J Whitlock) surely.
We already have 7 on our list, when we'll play two at most at AFL level at any one time. Possibly one on occasion.
We're gunna struggle to juggle development time and roles at VFL as it is.
Even a ruck (Dodson) impacts that given he'll be splitting time forward.
Any more and we run the risk of impacting development
We don’t have a F3 as it went to Freo as part of the Bolton deal.
I also think we’ll probably get a better offer than this with several teams likely to be interested.
Our rucks are threadbare, Nankervis is the wrong side of 30, Ryan still only a maybe, the Cat B rucks are longshots to make the grade. Just have a look at Geelong - De Koning (204cm), Stanley (200cm), Blicavs (198cm), Conway (206cm), Mitchell Edwards (206cm) plus they also want to add Dodson.
My point was that next year will again have midfielders at the pointy end that we will have access to, Sharpe and Dursma have a point of difference as you say Greeves maybe not but still a good player.
Talls are nearly always a wait and see in their final year so no certainty there.
I'm surprised no ones talking about Sam Davidson. the kid's an elite runner and ball user with good speed, this teams screaming out for an injection of speed... it's a no brainer. I reckon we trade out 28 for f1 and a late 30's - 40's pick for him.
play him on the wing whilst he develops his midfield game.
play him on the wing whilst he develops his midfield game.
not sure we have 15 KPP on our list. lets look at KPF only. not third talls, FF and CHF. who do we have in this position?
Lynch, kosi, lefau Fawcett?? Bauer , Gray??. (balta we know is a Key Def).
so really Lefau looks ok, Bauer seems ok but prob more 3rd tall. kosi no good. the rest have not proven anything yet.
so to me were definately lacking in KPFs and thnk we need another one this draft (prob first pick Rd 2 tonight). cant have too many talls and after Lynch we really have no player ready to take FF or CHF.
Yep. And it will be multiple access points to them, something we didn't have until last night. (Been trying to explain that to a couple of people.
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Assuming we use the next pick how many spots are on the list for pre season and Rookie draft?
I've worked for no AFL clubs, and i am pretty confident you are right.
I've already stated who they are. I didn't include Lefau or Bauer in my list as I regard them as 3rd talls / mediums.
The talls I mention include rucks, but bear in mind they account for probably 5-6 players in your team out of 23, that kind of gives you how much of the list they should make up. 6 over 23 is 26% or of 44 players should be about 11-12. We have 15, named below for you.
Balta, Blight, Colina, Fawcett, Gibcus, Gray, OHB, Kosi, Lynch, Miller, Nank, Ryan, Young, thats 13 and add Faull and Armstrong.
I haven't mentioned quality of these talls at all, but list balance.
1 - we need to play as many players in our squad in either the AFL or VFL sides
2 - The more talls we take, the less smalls / mids we take, which puts pressure on us being able to rotate smalls / mids through the AFL side
Yes players will be injured at times through the year, but that works for both talls and the rest. The more talls you have because of potential injury etc, the less you have of the rest and more exposed you become.
As I say if we have 6 KP's and rucks playing in the AFL side, thats 26%, we already have 15 of what will be 44 players in the squad, so we have 34% of the list tied up in a position that will only make up 26% of the AFL playing side. That reduces the chances for all those talls to get games, but also puts pressure on the rest of our list.
BTW - of course you can have too many talls, you aren't going to fill half your list with players that play KP's, probably the most ridiculous thing I've heard anyone say.
Its dependent on how Colina is regarded. If we have him still as a Cat B, and there should be enough grounds for us to have hum remain as a Cat B, pretty sure the AFL have allowed players to remain as Cat B past their 3 years before, then we would have 1 spot left for the RD if we took 1 pick in the rest of the ND.