ARC Appeal

[btoz_01]

or a goal umpire on each post & *smile* the technology off

They’d run into each and knock themselves out what do we do next?

 

[123cups]

Respect to Fagan for conceding they stuffed this up in his presser. He could've easily dismissed it, but didn't. That's pretty classy.

Chris Scott would've said the AFL got it right.

 

[DavidSSS]

BS - If Lynch kicks the ball though the middle of the big sticks from 10m out we win. Someone getting paid $1mil a year should be able to do that. We weren't good enough on the night ARC *smile*-up, or not.

We've been shafted by the umps for 5 years in a row now and it hasn't stopped us winning 3 premierships.

Folks are having trouble accepting we are not the best team in the comp anymore. Injuries, form, coach playing up, assistants leaving. senior players retiring it happens to everyone. Geesook have managed to hang on by extremely clever recruiting, trading and list management. But they are hanging on by their fingernails. They don't win this year and they are fooked.

Complete bollocks.

Lynch was 10-15m out from goal, the ball landed way back in the stand. It could not have gone over post height, it just can't. If Lynch kicked the ball high enough to go over post height from that close the ball would have landed about 5 rows from the fence, it didn't, the ball landed a long way back in the stand, it could not have been over post height when it went over the goal line.

You cannot say "if Lynch kicked the ball through the middle" he did. He kicked it between the 2 tall posts.

The game was decided by less than a kick, we would have won if the correct decision was not over-ruled.

What people are saying is that Brisbane deserved to win despite the fact that there was a game changing incorrect decision which would have changed the result. I find that an incredibly weak position to support.

I can accept we are no longer the best team, what I cannot accept is losing an Elimination Final by a clearly incorrect decision.

DS

 

[Streak]

FARC the ARC, should start a petition to get rid of it.

The ARC has its limitations, but nothing in comparison to those of Gil and his sycophants.

I know who the petition should be aimed at.

 

[HR]

BS - If Lynch kicks the ball though the middle of the big sticks from 10m out we win. Someone getting paid $1mil a year should be able to do that. We weren't good enough on the night ARC *smile*-up, or not.

We've been shafted by the umps for 5 years in a row now and it hasn't stopped us winning 3 premierships.

Folks are having trouble accepting we are not the best team in the comp anymore. Injuries, form, coach playing up, assistants leaving. senior players retiring it happens to everyone. Geesook have managed to hang on by extremely clever recruiting, trading and list management. But they are hanging on by their fingernails. They don't win this year and they are fooked.

I think you are all muddled up on the reality of what happened.
Lynch did kick it through the goals. The umpire called it a goal. There was no evidence to prove otherwise. THE AFL did not follow their own rules set.
The rest of your story changes nothing.
I'll make it simple.
No ARC *smile* up, we win.

 

[btoz_01]

Any chance AFL can get competent goal umps that can make a decision?
if they’re constantly going to rely on ARC they may as well not be there

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

Any chance AFL can get competent goal umps that can make a decision?
if they’re constantly going to rely on ARC they may as well not be there

It's a culture they've nurtured where goal umpires are now covering their arses rather than backing themselves in. The result is more mistakes.

 

[Tigers of Old]

As cross as i am about this debacle I'm still extremely annoyed Lynch didn't put it beyond doubt.
Geez we have missed some gilt edged opportunities this season at crucial times.

 

[Mr Brightside]

As cross as i am about this debacle I'm still extremely annoyed Lynch didn't put it beyond doubt.
Geez we have missed some gilt edged opportunities this season at crucial times.

It’s definitely something we’ll have to work on over summer and really have to re learn to shut down games when it’s not going our way, hopefully a the assistant can help fix this with fresh ideas

 

[TigerForce]

As cross as i am about this debacle I'm still extremely annoyed Lynch didn't put it beyond doubt.
Geez we have missed some gilt edged opportunities this season at crucial times.

Same here Oldie. He's done it before this season from the same spot and distance. Just bombs high instead of quick low snap.

 

[tigermouseau]

When the AFL changed the rules with the stand on the mark bollocks I knew it was all about dismantling the Richmond gameplan, let's be honest, the hierarchy have always wanted equalisation, they pride themselves on it. Unfortunately this kind of sports socialism has seeped into all facets of the game, from free kicks to dubious video decisions. It's policy on the run & has created situations like the Tom Stewart king hit which was largely ignored until the videos made the umpires look criminally negligent. If the AFL thinks fans will simply keep putting up with such garbage then they might be in for a rude shock. This year I found my interest waning, in part because Everest has already been scaled but also due to the arbitrary nature of officialdom & the blatant inconsistency you see on a weekly basis. I'm sure there are others who feel the same way.

Absolutely agree. Said it earlier that I am seriously thinking of letting my afl membership go as a sign of my dissatisfaction over its bias against us. The arc review shows what a Mickey Mouse organisation they really are. I too am pretty content, that despite the afl, we have managed 3 premierships in recent times. We stuck it up ‘em.

 

[tigermouseau]

This is what I've been saying all along. Flogs on social media showing a ball above the post as conclusive proof. I say the ball had already crossed the line before the ball gets to post height. How the AFL/ARC can show that as their proof also is disgraceful.

That is clearly what the other footage shows - was clearly a goal. But that fact doesn’t really matter, the ARC f’d up their own rules, and it should never have been overruled. Never, ever - even if it was Richmond.

 

[tigermouseau]

Let it go campaigners we stuffed up in that game far more times than the ARC. Didn’t deserve it in the end.

Why? To think we made so many mistakes yet we’re still in the game makes the arc decision harder to stomach, imho.

 

[tigerman]

Ugle Hagan.......more like Useless Hagan.

 

[tigermouseau]

As cross as i am about this debacle I'm still extremely annoyed Lynch didn't put it beyond doubt.
Geez we have missed some gilt edged opportunities this season at crucial times.

He did put it beyond doubt - it went thru the big sticks. As others have said - end of story

 

[Rod]

Flawed system. Full stop.
Unless the camera is sitting on the kicker’s head (ie directly behind the line of the ball), there will always be a degree of “parallax error”. Review system is better suited for touched on the line.
In a perfect world you’d gave a goal umpire behind each post… like the touch judges in Rugby League do for a penalty kick/conversion.
In Lynch’s example, Goal umpire was actually in a pretty good position…. directly behind the relevant post.

 

[Cooper O'Reilly]

It's a culture they've nurtured where goal umpires are now covering their arses rather than backing themselves in. The result is more mistakes.

It’s exactly what happened to cricket since they brought in the third umpire.

The on field umpires hardly ever have the courage to make a run out or stumped decision anymore, they go straight to the 3rd umpire.

Goal umpires are doing the same thing. May as well not have them if they can’t make a decision. The system was brought in to prevent the howlers but instead it creates them.

 

[bricci]

The footage from behind Lynch throws up another angle that shows the ball go behind the post 3/4 of the way up before it hooks back at the top of the goal post. Therefore the definitive picture of the ball above the post occurs behind the goal line. Even on the night the ump asked whether it hit the post not whether it occured above the post. I truly believe it was a goal. Even moreso now I think we should press the AFL for the conclusive vision.

The ump ask to check which side of the post it went - he knew it crossed the line below the top of the post.

 

[eZyT]

A class action by punters who lost on the outcome.

The acheilles heal of this case,

Is punter have absolutely no class

 

[bricci]

I reckon it went straight over the post. Either way Lynch butchered 2 chances to seal the game.

Without Prestia and Grimes our season was cooked anyway.

2nd point is fair enough - your 1st point proves you need glasses!