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toby64

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Recently read Faldo/Norman about the 2 players and more specifically the 1996 Masters.

Good read
 

Giardiasis

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Apr 20, 2009
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Just finished "A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism" by Hans-Hermann Hoppe. This book is a classic. I particularly liked how Hoppe elucidates the left and right versions of socialism: "Conservative" socialism favors high regulation, behavioral controls, protectionism, and nationalism with the goal of equality of opportunity. The "liberal" version tends more toward outright public ownership and redistribution with the goal of equality of results. Naturally either approach results in high costs, resource waste, and low growth (in addition to the immoral act of using violent coercion). Hoppe provides a sound theoretical justification for capitalism as the only moral arrangement of society and the one that leads to the greatest utility for all. Never fear, he also uses empirical evidence to support his positions where it exists, even for privatised security!

A must read for anyone who champions freedom and liberty, which for some reason doesn't seem to be many people. It is curious how the idea that using violence to force people to do things against their will is wrong is unpopular.

It can be read for free here: https://mises.org/system/tdf/Theory%20of%20Socialism%20and%20Capitalism%2C%20A_4.pdf?file=1&type=document
 

AngryAnt

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Nov 25, 2004
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Giardiasis said:
Just finished "A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism" by Hans-Hermann Hoppe. This book is a classic. I particularly liked how Hoppe elucidates the left and right versions of socialism: "Conservative" socialism favors high regulation, behavioral controls, protectionism, and nationalism with the goal of equality of opportunity. The "liberal" version tends more toward outright public ownership and redistribution with the goal of equality of results. Naturally either approach results in high costs, resource waste, and low growth (in addition to the immoral act of using violent coercion). Hoppe provides a sound theoretical justification for capitalism as the only moral arrangement of society and the one that leads to the greatest utility for all. Never fear, he also uses empirical evidence to support his positions where it exists, even for privatised security!

A must read for anyone who champions freedom and liberty, which for some reason doesn't seem to be many people. It is curious how the idea that using violence to force people to do things against their will is unpopular.

It can be read for free here: https://mises.org/system/tdf/Theory%20of%20Socialism%20and%20Capitalism%2C%20A_4.pdf?file=1&type=document

Great, some light reading for a Sunday afternoon.
 

Michael

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Nov 30, 2004
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Sisters Brothers, Patrick DeWitt

Excellent book.
Kind of a western in the style of Of Mice and Men
Set in the American gold rush. But I think DeWitt is Irish, so it has a weird take on everything.

Ace characters, excellent plot.

I preferred this one to Undermajordomo
 

bigwow

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Jul 24, 2003
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Just finished 'The World According to Bob' sequel to 'A Streetcat Named Bob', enjoyable reads about a homeless guy, and the stray cat that helps get his life back on track.
saw the film a couple of weeks back ath the Lido, in Hawthorn, that's a proper cinema.
 
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easy_tiger

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Michael said:
Sisters Brothers, Patrick DeWitt

yeah, its a ripper mick. likable psychopaths are hard to find.

Ive just discovered a national treasure - David Ireland - and read his 3 consecutive miles frank winners.

I commend them all, but The Glass Canoe is one of the best books ive ever read.

Theres a bit where a queenslander tells a tale of his rescue from quickmud by his border collie that I laughed so much I couldnt breath.
 

Michael

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easy said:
yeah, its a ripper mick. likable psychopaths are hard to find.

Ive just discovered a national treasure - David Ireland - and read his 3 consecutive miles frank winners.

I commend them all, but The Glass Canoe is one of the best books ive ever read.

Theres a bit where a queenslander tells a tale of his rescue from quickmud by his border collie that I laughed so much I couldnt breath.

Easy. took your advice re the glass canoe. Bit of trouble getting a copy, so I joined the local library :).
Anyway, its a ripper. Nothing better than a take on life from the front bar. Aside from Sharon the barmaid, women get a pretty rough trot
Im off to borrow" some more David Ireland

Here's one for you. Steven Toltz, A Fraction of the Whole. You will *smile* yourself. The section on the A to Z of crime is brilliant.
 
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easy_tiger

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Michael said:
Easy. took your advice re the glass canoe. Bit of trouble getting a copy, so I joined the local library :).
Anyway, its a ripper. Nothing better than a take on life from the front bar. Aside from Sharon the barmaid, women get a pretty rough trot
Im off to borrow" some more David Ireland

Here's one for you. Steven Toltz, A Fraction of the Whole. You will p!ss yourself. The section on the A to Z of crime is brilliant.

Thanks Mick, I'll take a look.

The other two Ireland I enjoyed (to round out the 3 Miles Franklins) are 'The unknown Industrial Prisoner', which is a similar vein, and I reckon is every bit as good as Catch 22, and The Chantic Bird, which is a bit Clockwork Orange.

On Glass Canoe and women, yeah you wouldnt select the book for a women's reading group. The barmaid was kind of empowered through her large and buttoned labia, but also the central characters lover had some power in her flippancy and non-committment

Just finished Richard Ford - The Sportswriter. Really enjoyed it and will follow up with Independance Day, but again, you certainly wouldnt commend it to either a womens, or black persons, reading circle.
 

Michael

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Nov 30, 2004
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Easy, talking of black people, have you read last year's Booker winner, The SELLOUT?

I enjoyed the book, couldn't understand all the *smile* that it generated. It's a good read
 
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easy_tiger

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Michael said:
Easy, talking of black people, have you read last year's Booker winner, The SELLOUT?

I enjoyed the book, couldn't understand all the sh!t that it generated. It's a good read

no, ill put that on my list too :fing32
 

fastin bulbous

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Have a read of 'Larrakitj' easy. All about Arnhem burial poles. An art book will incredible photography and fantastic essays on the intricacies of local cultures. From our brothers at Yirrkala who continue to dominate the art world with strong cultural practice and incredible art practice
 
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easy_tiger

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fastin bulbous said:
Have a read of 'Larrakitj' easy. All about Arnhem burial poles. An art book will incredible photography and fantastic essays on the intricacies of local cultures. From our brothers at Yirrkala who continue to dominate the art world with strong cultural practice and incredible art practice

sounds great fb. Ive got a Yirrkala bark octopus in my dunny!

bought a copy of The Sellout and ordered Fraction of the Whole Mick.

Ive discovered a line of books called 'Text Classics'. they are yellow covered, and only about $12, and the publisher has reprinted a heap of forgotten, unheralded rippers. Ive read about 6 and theyve all been great.

another ripper for you (text classic) - Gerald Murnane - A lifetime on Clouds.
 

Michael

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Nov 30, 2004
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Easy. Just finished the Chantic Bird. Another ripper.
Yep I get your Clockwork Orange reference, similar feel.

The Narrator/Protagonist is another likable sociopath :)

PS Text Classic $12.95. Gunna investigate more of these
 

Azza

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Dark emu black seeds. Looks at the ways pre-white Aboriginal culture had a major settled component, including agriculture and permanent villages. A real eye-opener.
 
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easy_tiger

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Michael said:
Easy. Just finished the Chantic Bird. Another ripper.
Yep I get your Clockwork Orange reference, similar feel.

The Narrator/Protagonist is another likable sociopath :)

PS Text Classic $12.95. Gunna investigate more of these

Havnt read a bad text classic yet

Your on a roll with Ireland.

May as well read 'the unknown industrial prisoner' now

An aussie catch .22 and every bit as good imo

Im taking The Sellout down to melbourne this weekend, but i reckon ill be too edgy to read?
 

tigertim

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Read "Fabulous Phil" by Matthew Watson on Phil Carman of course.

it was good read to learn more about Carman. I was only 15 when he stopped playing in '82 and I don't have any clear memories of having seen him play.

But from all accounts and some youtubing he was a mercurial player.

He played 8 seasons at Norwood for just 58 games! He had to sit out for 2 years as Collingwood fought for him.

He then played an even 100 games of VFL with Collingwood, Essendon, Melbourne and North Melbourne.

So in 16 seasons of SANFL/VFL he only played 158 games ( as an example Hodge played 305 games in 16 seasons)
 

MD Jazz

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tigertim said:
Read "Fabulous Phil" by Matthew Watson on Phil Carman of course.

it was good read to learn more about Carman. I was only 15 when he stopped playing in '82 and I don't have any clear memories of having seen him play.

But from all accounts and some youtubing he was a mercurial player.

He played 8 seasons at Norwood for just 58 games! He had to sit out for 2 years as Collingwood fought for him.

He then played an even 100 games of VFL with Collingwood, Essendon, Melbourne and North Melbourne.

So in 16 seasons of SANFL/VFL he only played 158 games ( as an example Hodge played 305 games in 16 seasons)

John Murphy (marks dad) says he’s the best footballer he’s ever played against. Could do things no one else could, just a freak.
 

tigertim

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LeeToRainesToRoach said:
My old man built a fence for him at the height of his infamy. Reckoned he was a good bloke.
Yeah, hard to tell from the book. Many ex team mates were harsh and many said he was a good bloke....just different.

He did contribute to the book and sometimes he did sound like a twat.