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Callum Coleman-Judas - extricate yourself to Nth Ballarat, you git
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Nank hadn’t kicked 5 goals in a key position though.
CJ has more runs on the board at a younger age after being an earlier draft pick.
They go low and we go high. Would be an amazing result to get Tarrant, Chol compo & pick 20.
Going on the article below I wonder if Richmond could do something with Tarrant's contract so as not to counter against the Chol compo and pick him up in FA?
'The Tigers early threat will be to retain Coleman-Jones' if true would suggest maybe Richmond may up the offer for CCJ to stay or maybe they think he may not be interested in walking to the PSD? Or something else?
Also Richmond not looking at trading for other players and just going to the draft sounds good.
Richmond’s trade with North Melbourne for ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones has hit early trouble.
Jon Ralph and Simeon Thomas-Wilson
5 min read
October 4, 2021 - 1:50PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
Richmond’s trade with North Melbourne for ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones has hit an early roadblock given the Roos’ modest offerings for the developing key tall.
The Roos have been steadfast they will not offer up their pick 20 for a player who was drafted four years ago with that same pick – No. 20 – in the 2017 national draft.
The Tigers early threat will be to retain Coleman-Jones if a deal cannot be struck to compensate them for losing a player they believe has a huge future in the AFL.
That threat is less realistic given the Roos have pick one in the pre-season draft and could secure Coleman-Jones without having to hand over a national draft pick.
The Roos next pick after 20 is 38, but Richmond will want a selection closer to 20 to orchestrate a trade for Coleman-Jones.
Hopes the trade that would also see Robbie Tarrant get to Punt Road might proceed smoothly have evaporated.
Tarrant is a free agent but if he is included in the Coleman-Jones deal he does not officially arrive as a free agent, which would have diluted the compensation for Mabior Chol.
Richmond has no plans to bolster its midfield with a senior player from a rival side given cap constraints but has its eye on the Western Bulldogs’ No. 17 selection.
The Tigers already have picks 7 and 15 and with selections 26, 28, 38, 42, 47 plus the Coleman-Jones selection could trade up for a third top-20 selection.
Tarrant is set to be the club’s big-name addition as it improves its draft hand and continues to blood kids including Riley Collier-Dawkins, Thompson Dow, Will Martyn and Maurice Rioli Jr.
Add to that the fact that instead of fighting for the number 1 or 2 ruck position, he'd prefer to flee to another club and have the spot handed to him by default.
If he doesn't want to do the hard yards and force the selectors to pick him in front of Soldo who is coming back from a car-crash knee injury, then those actions say a lot. about his resilience and hunger to succeed.
I'm also pleased with this info in the article, as I didnt want to pick up Mitchell, O'Meara or Wingard. Let someone else give away their picks to help the Hawks re-build quicker.
Richmond has no plans to bolster its midfield with a senior player from a rival side given cap constraints but has its eye on the Western Bulldogs’ No. 17 selection.
Richmond has no plans to bolster its midfield with a senior player from a rival side given cap constraints but has its eye on the Western Bulldogs’ No. 17 selection.
That was definitely the best part of the article.
Strengthen the draft hand. Could be then make a play for pick 2, 3 or 4 while keeping pick 7 &/or keeping late first/early 2nd round picks. Regenerate with current young players and boost with some top talent from this years draft to take over the gaps when some of the stars retire. Look at FA next year too.
If Richmond can work some magic in negotiations and get pick 20 that would give us picks = 6,250 points which is massive.
So irritating that a club can offer a player a contract worth close to $2m, but then claim they only believe he’s worth pick 40. I don’t think we’re likely to get 20, but I’m hoping we might be able to either get their future 2nd or supplement pick 40 by arranging a swap of second rounders for next year.
Yes. And not even Pick 40 according to Michael Gleeson/The Age. Bit different to what Tom Morris reported.
North, Richmond debate worth of Coleman-Jones
By Michael Gleeson
North Melbourne has offered a slide of draft picks in the late rounds next year in an ambit opening bid for Richmond’s ruck forward Callum Coleman-Jones.North has offered their third round pick next year for Coleman-Jones but want Richmond’s fourth round pick back in return in the deal for the player.
The Tigers and North are a long way apart in early discussions as Richmond wants the Roos’ pick 20 for the big man who has been offered a four-year deal to move to Arden Street.
Coleman-Jones was drafted with pick 20 four years ago.
Richmond was frustrated and disappointed at the player’s decision to leave in the first instance believing opportunities would begin to open up in the Tigers senior team next season and beyond.
They also feel the player had been well supported by the club after his COVID breach at a Gold Coast strip joint and fight outside a kebab bar along with teammate Sydney Stack cost the club $100,000 in the salary cap and saw the players suspended at length.
North holds the first pick in the pre-season draft but it is unlikely the player or his management is keen to use this avenue to move.
North reasons the 22-year-old player has only played nine games since being drafted in 2017.
Coleman-Jones has spent most of his time as a back-up forward to premiership stars Tom Lynch and Jack Riewoldt.
The 200cm athletic tall played most of his junior football in the ruck and wants to play more as a ruckman than a forward.
Richmond has already lost versatile tall Mabior Chol this off-season with the ruck forward moving to the Gold Coast Suns as a free agent.
Don't know what's fact or fiction - but if a one Round pick slide (3rd to 4th) is what they did offer, its actually embarrassing to CCJ and his Management. Offering peanuts like this is at worst, how you swap for a fringe player pick 40 on your list.
They are doing it because they can. Not north’s fault it is the fault of the system.
If we were in their position there would be calls on this site to do exactly what they are doing
If we were in their position there would be calls on this site to do exactly what they are doing
Surely they would need to include this year's pick 40 + a swap of next years picks to be even considered. North already said pick 38 was around the mark last week.
Michael Gleeson is usually pretty accurate when it comes to Richmond and this line makes the PSD unlikely if true 'North holds the first pick in the pre-season draft but it is unlikely the player or his management is keen to use this avenue to move' .
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Unless they offer something that isn’t an insult, force them to use the psd. For some reason they don’t want to go that road. They may blink if they think we’re forcing them into it.
Ludicrous offer , Dudoro type stuff, this is professional sport, you can’t offer a 2 million 4 year deal to a player then expect to pay a swap of draft picks which realistically could be pick 40 for 50 , fair enough to offer up less then what you intend to pay , but that’s just a *smile* waste of everyones time and energy .
Forgetting CJ was a Tiger , the form he showed this year ,IMHO a pick in the 20s is fair , maybe CJ an 38 for 20 and Tarrant is close to where it ends up . I’ll stand corrected , however the best clubs or men to deal with in recent times have been the most successful sides I.e US, Hawks ,Swans and Cats , professional and not too much bull *smile*
Both teams will posture for a while, then agree to meet in the middle somewhere.
There is always the possibility that Richmond will up their offer to Coleman-Jones and he decides to stay. Sydney did it with Papley in recent times and there are plenty of other precedents. It sounds like CCJ is uncertain about whether he wants to go or not, hence saying he wants to look after the club. If his mind was made up he wouldn’t care how he gets there.
Most likely, North will cough up their second round pick and Tarrant and Richmond will cough up some value as well.
There is always the possibility that Richmond will up their offer to Coleman-Jones and he decides to stay. Sydney did it with Papley in recent times and there are plenty of other precedents. It sounds like CCJ is uncertain about whether he wants to go or not, hence saying he wants to look after the club. If his mind was made up he wouldn’t care how he gets there.
Most likely, North will cough up their second round pick and Tarrant and Richmond will cough up some value as well.
It kind of sounds like CCJ has told his management that he's not comfortable with going to the PSD. Would put Richmond in the box set here.
North would have to come to the party some what because CCJ is managed by TLA which have nearly 30% of all AFL players on their books.
