The Carlton list has holes but it’s not a bottom 4 team. You can’t absolve Voss of any responsibility in this.
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True Words Smokiey Bear.
Ol Mate Fago dropped the best shot at a flag in 2020 had everything gifted to them until the Cats tore them a new one in the Prelim.
I think the big one is Walsh. Came on the scene as expected and looked very very good. He seems like an average plodder now, his disposals don't hurt you.
They put up a shot at 1 point on Sunday.
It was something like Walsh 27 possessions and only 2 score involvements. This is from a player that is not really inside, he plays outside and should be a big cog in their scoring chains. They compared that to Merrett, who had been tagged somewhat successfully by Curnow and they then moved him forward, it was something like 13 possessions for him for 7 score involvements.
You just cannot have a Pick 1, outside midfield type where only 10% of their touches end in scores. It wasn't as if Carlton weren't getting scores either (they just kicked a lot of behinds) but Walsh is the biggest blinking light around failed development at that club.
True Words Smokiey Bear.
Ol Mate Fago dropped the best shot at a flag in 2020 had everything gifted to them until the Cats tore them a new one in the Prelim.
and they were spoon fed an elimination final win at their home ground with that ridiculous goal review last season.
Should I start a new thread?True Words Smokiey Bear.
Ol Mate Fago dropped the best shot at a flag in 2020 had everything gifted to them until the Cats tore them a new one in the Prelim.
The demise of Grandpa Fagan.
I’ve always called luck being where preparation meets opportunity. Preparation and hard work is the biggest success factor.
I.e. Having a genuine chance to be successful is definitely not luck.
When you get into the actual end game of a season then injuries, suspensions, umpiring decisions, the vagaries of the draw annd where you play and the bounce of the ball can all play a role too. This is secondary but still a big factor.
Given you have no data to support your assertion and I have none to support mine we can each maintain our opinions.
Nah, it's all luck apparently, nothing else.
Geez, I hate to think what StKilda did 130 years ago to have such bad luck for such a long period. Nothing to do with not being a well run club, or having the players.
Interesting to note that Voss has apparently sunk from being a great coach and is now just "capable of being a great coach".
The reality is that there is luck involved (nobody has said it isn't), but there are also a hell of a lot of other factors. Indeed, with the equalisation measures in place each little marginal gain a club can get is even more important. The competition is very close, as we saw with Hawthorn beating Brisbane last week.
DS
Carlton frontrunners for Jade Gresham, perfect player to target, one more small forward & the side will look a truckload better.
I would expect guys like Zac Williams & Jack Martin to be shipped on in due course, Blake Acres another list clogger.
Jade Gresham has been injured on and off for a few years now. And right now looks a shadow of his former self.
Achilles 2021. Meniscus last year. Still knee issues in January of this year. Did they operate on the meniscus? When did he do the PCL? Missing games with that.
He is a star at his best. StKilda would be mad to lose him if they think he can regain it.
Achilles 2021. Meniscus last year. Still knee issues in January of this year. Did they operate on the meniscus? When did he do the PCL? Missing games with that.
He is a star at his best. StKilda would be mad to lose him if they think he can regain it.
Wanker Whateley talks up Cartoon as if yesterday's game was the breakout. Even gets an emotional Blooze caller on the line calling his team 'awesome' after taking his son to the game. This prick lets others talk about our positive performances but can't stop sucking up Cartoon himself no matter how bad they are. Cartoon fans including Marge, calling in as if they won the GF.
Meh. A lot of people have taken the last while pretty hard as supporters, haven't stopped attending, haven't stopped caring,, so the win means a bit to them. Good on them. Nothing to begrudge IMO.
Personally I wouldn't have given a f*** had they got done yesterday, but then again I've removed myself from all the emotion this year. Some (many?) haven't, so it's their win to enjoy.
Personally I wouldn't have given a f*** had they got done yesterday, but then again I've removed myself from all the emotion this year. Some (many?) haven't, so it's their win to enjoy.
Here is some trivia worth remembering
First and foremost, Carlton has lost more finals matches to Richmond than any other club. In total, Carlton has had 16 finals losses to the Tigers, with as many as 10 of these finals losses occurring in a row between 1921 and 1972. Carlton has also had four grand final losses to Richmond (1921, 1932, 1969 & 1973). This is the highest number of grand final losses to one team (alongside Essendon) that Carlton has received.
First and foremost, Carlton has lost more finals matches to Richmond than any other club. In total, Carlton has had 16 finals losses to the Tigers, with as many as 10 of these finals losses occurring in a row between 1921 and 1972. Carlton has also had four grand final losses to Richmond (1921, 1932, 1969 & 1973). This is the highest number of grand final losses to one team (alongside Essendon) that Carlton has received.
