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shad

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more to do endemicity and much lower test rates.

Sone estimates of excess deaths in Uttar Pradesh claimed only 10% of covid deaths were recorded as such.

In poor countries people die in villages and are buried or cremated. That's it.
I read a study from Indonesia where it was shown that the official figure were more than 50 times higher than what was reported. Not sure about deaths though.
 
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AngryAnt

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I read a study from Indonesia where it was shown that the official figure were more than 50 times higher than what was reported. Not sure about deaths though.

sounds about right :)

The best part about the antivax brigaders going on about developing countries having lower test/hospital/death rates is it pretty much confirms that they've never set foot in any of these countries and know nothing about the realities of people living there.

In Indonesia it's around the average person's monthly salary to get a PCR test. Would you get the PCR or feed the kids and pay the rent for the month? And if you die in the village, people say "ina illahi wa ina illahi rajaun" (To Allah we belong and to Allah we return), clean you up, drop you in the ground within 12 hours, job done. No Covid test required.
 
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DavidSSS

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Morrison casually dropping into the conversation the fact that you can repeatedly get the Omicron variant had me wondering what's the end game here?
The 'Let it RIP' policy was initially portrayed as a way out of this wave & to make this endemic but if we have a country draped in rolling sickness then it's going to be very hard to reignite the economy. Not to mention the drain on the public purse of Australians suffering the health effects of ongoing long covid symptoms.

Also NSW CHO was asked how many deaths of Delta vs Omicron. Dr Chant was unable to answer the question. Also why are so many vaccinated people dying?
Pretty pertinent questions in setting policy but she was unable to give clear answers. I found that pretty concerning especially with such low 3 x vaxxed numbers.

Repeated infections does make the argument about letting COVID become endemic simply wrong. If infection does not lead to immunity for those who survive then we have to control infection. As for so many people who are vaccinated dying, I'm not sure of the figures, but this is to be expected as the vaccinated outnumber the unvaccinated at least 19 to 1 amongst adults, so, eventually the vaccinated will become the majority of those dying. It's just that there will be a lot less deaths overall.

The big numbers keep coming in and this is with inadequate testing. Who knows how this will continue.

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RoarEmotion

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My summary of this is if you get a very mild version then a large dose you can get it twice.


Heard Chant this morning say 50% of NSW will likely get it.

Whatever the case, being vaccinated helps our healthcare system and you would think in almost all cases the individual.

This is the message we hopefully send with the dokavic decision and nothing about his individual personal risk. Even just the money spent on the court stuff with him could have purchased plenty of RATs for the population.

Moving to endemic is going to take some time. My guess would be a massive wave now for the next month or two whilst the majority of the population gets it, then some smaller waves as some reinfection takes place. Any new variant and it’s potentially 52 card pickup. Not buying any tourism related stocks.

I expect we eventually move away from isolation requirements altogether (once more endemic) and the hospitals aren’t as crowded.
 
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Coburgtiger

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I read this study.

Interesting, definitely.

Worth noting that the tested compounds are inactivated by heat, and need to be ingested, not smoked.

Also worth noting that this had been tested on cell cultures only, and the authors note that although the tested dose may be tolerable in people, it still hasn't even passed animal testing for safety, let alone efficacy.

Having said that, the two compounds tested seem extremely effective at preventing entry of covid into cells, on a variety of variants. Although it wasn't tested on omicron, it's results on alpha and delta and the pseudo virus suggest it would be effective in the same conditions on omicron.

At this stage, it should be considered interesting, investigate further.
 

AngryAnt

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Surprised Harry and Vin haven't jumped on the urine therapy angle yet, seems to have replaced losing dieting and gym membership as the latest miracle cure ..

Losing weight is hard but drinking your own *smile* each morning is simple and effective.
 
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DavidSSS

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I read this study.

Interesting, definitely.

Worth noting that the tested compounds are inactivated by heat, and need to be ingested, not smoked.

Also worth noting that this had been tested on cell cultures only, and the authors note that although the tested dose may be tolerable in people, it still hasn't even passed animal testing for safety, let alone efficacy.

Having said that, the two compounds tested seem extremely effective at preventing entry of covid into cells, on a variety of variants. Although it wasn't tested on omicron, it's results on alpha and delta and the pseudo virus suggest it would be effective in the same conditions on omicron.

At this stage, it should be considered interesting, investigate further.

You're no fun!

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shad

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Surprised Harry and Vin haven't jumped on the urine therapy angle yet, seems to have replaced losing dieting and gym membership as the latest miracle cure ..

Losing weight is hard but drinking your own *smile* each morning is simple and effective.
It's a big deal in India. I'm pretty sure that Nehru (India's first PM) swore by it. I knew a German girl who lived up in the Himalayas who practised it every morning and she reckoned that she hadn't had a cold in eight years.
 
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It's a big deal in India. I'm pretty sure that Nehru (India's first PM) swore by it. I knew a German girl who lived up in the Himalayas who practised it every morning and she reckoned that she hadn't had a cold in eight years.
I think it's called 'Shivambu Kalpa' Shad. Part of the Ayurvedic medicine of India - natural medicine that goes back way over 1000 years. The urine of some animals is also used, in particular the cow. Personally not for me, but I've seen it practiced.
 
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TigerMasochist

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The urine of some animals is also used, in particular the cow.
Bloody well hard enough drinking warm beer. Absolutely certain I'm not gunna try drinking second hand warm beer or cow pee either for that matter. Definitely some weird thought processes getting around when we start thinking of bubbling as a cure for various ailments.
 
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