Coronavirus

[larabee]

Safe and effective…?

Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) vaccine and thrombosis with thrombocytopenia (TTS)

Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia (TTS) is a rare syndrome that occurred in around 2 to 3 people per 100,000 who were vaccinated with AstraZeneca. AstraZeneca is no longer available in Australia from 21 March 2023.

www.health.gov.au

For under 70’s, absolutely not.

From the article you posted, I'm not sure how you arrived at your conclusion that getting COVID-19 is safer than the AZ vaccine

In Australia:
1 in a million chance of death from TTS from AZ vaccine, or 0.000001%
19,574 COVID-19 deaths from 11,399,460 cases, or 1 death per 582 cases, or 0.171709%

I took my chances with the AZ at the time

AstraZeneca vaccine: risk of death is 1 in a million, but what does that mean?

1 in a million is really rare. See how it compares.

www.science.org.au

Mortality Analyses - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

How does mortality differ across countries? Examining the number of deaths per confirmed case and per 100,000 population. A global comparison.

coronavirus.jhu.edu

 

[Midsy]

Why have they withdrawn it?

 

[Baloo]

Why have they withdrawn it?

Did you read the article you posted? The answer is there

The federal health department confirmed that from March 20 the vaccine, sold under the brand-name Vaxzevria, would no longer be available to Australians.
Deakin University Chair in Epidemiology, Professor Catherine Bennett told Daily Mail Australia its removal was expected as it had been superseded by other vaccines.
'It was really only left available for this long for people who had earlier doses of AstraZeneca and wanted to complete their course with it,' Prof Bennett said.

This article, which is more about AZ pulling out of the US market, also sheds light on the global sales that COVID vaccines are pulling in and detailing that the AZ vaccine just doesn't have the market share or sales to make it a viable product for them anymore.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/astrazeneca-withdraws-us-covid-vaccine-application-focus-shifts-antibody-treatments

But I reckon it's more to do with the AZ vaccines incompatibility with the new nextgen ChatGPT enabled 5G towers.

 

[Scoop]

Is anyone testing anymore?

I had a four day boy with something last week that I reckon was COVID.

 

[IanG]

Is anyone testing anymore?

I had a four day boy with something last week that I reckon was COVID.

My fathers in an aged care home so yes I test every time I visit him.

 

[Scoop]

My fathers in an aged care home so yes I test every time I visit him.

Good point, mandatory testing at certain points. I suppose I was referring to it at home if you are feeling ill.

 

[Redford]

Is anyone testing anymore?

I had a four day boy with something last week that I reckon was COVID.

Yes, because it impacts your timelines for boosters (ie you need to wait at least 3 months before getting one), gives you an idea of your immunity status, gives you an exposure history for general overall health assessments in the future, and most importantly you identify yourself as being a potential risk to someone who may be vulnerable - like IanG just pointed out - and whether you should be isolating or not.

 

[Sintiger]

Did you read the article you posted? The answer is there

The federal health department confirmed that from March 20 the vaccine, sold under the brand-name Vaxzevria, would no longer be available to Australians.
Deakin University Chair in Epidemiology, Professor Catherine Bennett told Daily Mail Australia its removal was expected as it had been superseded by other vaccines.
'It was really only left available for this long for people who had earlier doses of AstraZeneca and wanted to complete their course with it,' Prof Bennett said.

This article, which is more about AZ pulling out of the US market, also sheds light on the global sales that COVID vaccines are pulling in and detailing that the AZ vaccine just doesn't have the market share or sales to make it a viable product for them anymore.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/astrazeneca-withdraws-us-covid-vaccine-application-focus-shifts-antibody-treatments

But I reckon it's more to do with the AZ vaccines incompatibility with the new nextgen ChatGPT enabled 5G towers.

Also the COVID vaccines are progressing continuously and are tweaked for new variants.
AZ hasn’t kept up as well as others

 

[spook]

Is anyone testing anymore?

I had a four day boy with something last week that I reckon was COVID.

I had a cold a couple of weeks ago, did a RAT, tested negative. Got the new variant booster last week in time for the Covid soup that is Bluesfest.

 

[Scoop]

Yes, because it impacts your timelines for boosters (ie you need to wait at least 3 months before getting one), gives you an idea of your immunity status, gives you an exposure history for general overall health assessments in the future, and most importantly you identify yourself as being a potential risk to someone who may be vulnerable - like IanG just pointed out - and whether you should be isolating or not.

I isolated and didn't go out for three days like I normally do when sick. And I'm not convinced I'll get any more boosters. I've recovered fine.

 

[AngryAnt]

Midsy posted a heap of guff about the withdrawal of C19 vaxxes in the UK a few months. If he'd read the sources he posted he'd have noticed they just stopped the free vax program.

With conspiracy nutters, absolutely any change to policy or updated research can be woven into their conspiracy narratives as evidence of Bill Gates and Soros being lizard-beings or something

 

[Midsy]

Why would they stop the vax program if it’s so important against the deadly coronavirus? Genuine question.

 

[MD Jazz]

Why would they stop the vax program if it’s so important against the deadly coronavirus? Genuine question.

Stop the program - please explain?

How was it not important - please explain?

You do understand basic maths and statistics, that's all you really need to appreciate how many lives were saved through vaccination?

 

[RoarEmotion]

Stop the program - please explain?

How was it not important - please explain?

You do understand basic maths and statistics, that's all you really need to appreciate how many lives were saved through vaccination?

No one pushing conspiracies understands basic maths or statistics... or else they chose to wilfully ignore it or leverage other peoples ignorance of it to make asinine but on the surface believable points.

 

[Midsy]

Interesting that the NSW government have introduced a bill holding employers liable for vaccine injuries (forever) if they have vaccine mandates as a condition of employment.

https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/bill/files/3835/First%20Print.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0Ux0QfcK4B87FcL87Mq1xWvLTwO_hYKqkp6k3ZQc92TjuTi-fwgKf3BTU

 

[larabee]

Interesting that the NSW government have introduced a bill holding employers liable for vaccine injuries (forever) if they have vaccine mandates as a condition of employment.

https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/bill/files/3835/First%20Print.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0Ux0QfcK4B87FcL87Mq1xWvLTwO_hYKqkp6k3ZQc92TjuTi-fwgKf3BTU

That bill was introduced over two years ago by Fred Nile who is no longer in parliament, and defeated in Feb last year

Bill - NSW legislation

legislation.nsw.gov.au

 

[Midsy]

That bill was introduced over two years ago by Fred Nile who is no longer in parliament, and defeated in Feb last year

Bill - NSW legislation

legislation.nsw.gov.au

Fair enough - my bad.

The underlying question still stands though. Why would this be needed if the vaccines are safe and effective?

 

[larabee]

Fair enough - my bad.

The underlying question still stands though. Why would this be needed if the vaccines are safe and effective?

Obviously wasn’t needed as it was defeated, but it was introduced, I guess, because Fred Nile is a *smile* wit

 

[larabee]

Fair enough - my bad.

The underlying question still stands though. Why would this be needed if the vaccines are safe and effective?

Oh, and vaccines are very safe and very effective. Have been for a hundred years.
You keep posting stuff you think will prove otherwise, but it doesn’t.

 

[Midsy]

Oh, and vaccines are very safe and very effective. Have been for a hundred years.
You keep posting stuff you think will prove otherwise, but it doesn’t.

Not trying to prove anything. I have legitimate concerns about what I've been injected with. I keep wondering why countries keep pulling them and what's causing the increased deaths around the world - somewhere in the region of 15% globally. Far too many vaccine injuries just to be coincidental. Jabbing babies now? Give me a break. Senator Alex Antic seems to be one politician that feels things shouldn't be left unquestioned.

I've also become very sceptical of Big Pharma and their true intentions. It makes no sense for them to see people get healthy in other ways (e.g. understanding the role that insulin plays in overall health and adjusting diets accordingly to improve the diabesity pandemic, rather than pushing insulin and statins which only make things worse).

It surprises me that people still tow the party lines without question, as much as my questioning it surprises, angers and (seems to) threaten people on here. But I understand that and what others believe/do is of no real consequence to me.