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show me the science.
I went down the street today and everyone was as healthy as spring trout
What made you think I was referring to you?
I'm glad you can spot a spreader displaying no symptoms. I am sadly devoid of that ability.
50 dead in Iran from Covid-19
Edit: This is yet to be confirmed. The Iranian government is sticking with the official figure of 12.
Edit: This is yet to be confirmed. The Iranian government is sticking with the official figure of 12.
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Correct me if I'm wrong Ezy, but I'm guessing he's highlighting the ridiculous 'it was cold in Melbourne therefore global warming isn't happening' point of view.
One is a threat to human life as we know it on this planet, and requires massive international coordination between leading scientists and world governments, and the other is a threat to human life as we know it on this planet, and requires massive international coordination between leading scientists and world governments.
Only difference is one could wipe out ten percent of the population and the other could wipe out all of it.
And one is imminent while the other is hundreds of years away.
So far my judgement on both has proven sound. If you want to discuss climate then meet me in the appropriate place.
Aren't you supposed to be Mr. Biology? Anything useful to contribute on topic?
How Australia will handle a coronavirus outbreak (paywalled)
Health authorities will open specialised “fever clinics” across the country if the deadly coronavirus reaches pandemic proportions.
Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy yesterday said “several million” Australians would be at risk if an outbreak were to happen.
But he maintained he was confident in Australia’s “excellent containment” measures.
An emergency response plan details how the country would respond if the threat of the virus, known as COVID-19, escalates, including quarantine facilities, fever clinics and dedicated hospital wards. The plan will only be enacted if community transmission occurs within Australia.
“Every state and territory has advanced pandemic plans,” Professor Murphy said.
“So there are a range of plans where they have isolated, designated areas for quarantine — they designate what we call fever clinics, where GPs set up to treat people who have the same condition.
“And there are many, many isolation wards in hospitals that are designated and prepared.
“So every state and territory works through these plans, and we are obviously updating them all now.”
Prof Murphy said authorities were planning for the “worst case scenario”.
“The worst case scenario is that we would have an infection of a very large proportion of the population, several million, and that the disease does cause severe pneumonia in a small percentage of people and puts a lot of pressure on our intensive care system and hospital system,” he told 3AW.
“It could be several weeks before we know if it’s a global pandemic that effects Australia,”
“It’s not inevitable and we should still do our very best globally to support containment.”
Prof Murphy also hit out at people who were buying masks, saying only people with coronavirus, in isolation or those with direct contact with a patient needed them.
“Please don’t go and use masks walking around the street,” he said. “There is no point at the moment and you’re just wasting them. We might need masks in the future, don’t wear them now.”
HOW CORONAVIRUS SPREADS
LOW: Hospitals and healthcare providers “stretched” in dealing with respiratory problems
MODERATE: Hospital services will be under “severe pressure” as cases spike
HIGH: Prioritisation for hospitals to “maintain essential services”, mortuary services “will be under pressure”
Source: Australian Health Sector Emergency Response Plan For Novel Coronavirus COVID-19
Under a pandemic breakout, elective surgeries could be delayed as hospitals refocused their efforts, Prof Murphy said. It is understood most patients would not need to be hospitalised and could be treated at home.
It comes as the Australian government increased travel warnings for Japan and South Korea to “high” this week, amid concerns of the virus spreading globally.
And thirsty Diamond Princess passengers kept in quarantine at the Howard Springs workers camp have petitioned health staff for the right to drink during their coronavirus isolation.
The emergency plan lists the most at-risk groups as being the elderly, infants, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders and those in remote communities.
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“It’s not inevitable and we should still do our very best globally to support containment.”
Maybe he didn't mean it to come out that way but it sounds like we're pushing *smile* uphill.
Health authorities will open specialised “fever clinics” across the country if the deadly coronavirus reaches pandemic proportions.
Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy yesterday said “several million” Australians would be at risk if an outbreak were to happen.
But he maintained he was confident in Australia’s “excellent containment” measures.
An emergency response plan details how the country would respond if the threat of the virus, known as COVID-19, escalates, including quarantine facilities, fever clinics and dedicated hospital wards. The plan will only be enacted if community transmission occurs within Australia.
“Every state and territory has advanced pandemic plans,” Professor Murphy said.
“So there are a range of plans where they have isolated, designated areas for quarantine — they designate what we call fever clinics, where GPs set up to treat people who have the same condition.
“And there are many, many isolation wards in hospitals that are designated and prepared.
“So every state and territory works through these plans, and we are obviously updating them all now.”
Prof Murphy said authorities were planning for the “worst case scenario”.
“The worst case scenario is that we would have an infection of a very large proportion of the population, several million, and that the disease does cause severe pneumonia in a small percentage of people and puts a lot of pressure on our intensive care system and hospital system,” he told 3AW.
“It could be several weeks before we know if it’s a global pandemic that effects Australia,”
“It’s not inevitable and we should still do our very best globally to support containment.”
Prof Murphy also hit out at people who were buying masks, saying only people with coronavirus, in isolation or those with direct contact with a patient needed them.
“Please don’t go and use masks walking around the street,” he said. “There is no point at the moment and you’re just wasting them. We might need masks in the future, don’t wear them now.”
HOW CORONAVIRUS SPREADS
- The virus is transmitted by cough droplet
- Can be caught if coughed on by a patient with coronavirus
- Can be caught from touching a surface someone with coronavirus has coughed on or touched
Source: Monash Health Associate Professor Rhonda Stuart
LOW: Hospitals and healthcare providers “stretched” in dealing with respiratory problems
MODERATE: Hospital services will be under “severe pressure” as cases spike
HIGH: Prioritisation for hospitals to “maintain essential services”, mortuary services “will be under pressure”
Source: Australian Health Sector Emergency Response Plan For Novel Coronavirus COVID-19
Under a pandemic breakout, elective surgeries could be delayed as hospitals refocused their efforts, Prof Murphy said. It is understood most patients would not need to be hospitalised and could be treated at home.
It comes as the Australian government increased travel warnings for Japan and South Korea to “high” this week, amid concerns of the virus spreading globally.
And thirsty Diamond Princess passengers kept in quarantine at the Howard Springs workers camp have petitioned health staff for the right to drink during their coronavirus isolation.
The emergency plan lists the most at-risk groups as being the elderly, infants, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders and those in remote communities.
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“It’s not inevitable and we should still do our very best globally to support containment.”
Maybe he didn't mean it to come out that way but it sounds like we're pushing *smile* uphill.
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Like what? I posted pretty much everything I think about this on the first page. It looks right, and there's not much new information.
Keep washing your hands. There's not a lot we can do. I'm all for restricting travel in this case. But I don't think it's gonna do much. As I said on page 1. I don't see any way this doesn't spread around the globe. I don't see any way there aren't lots of deaths.
One little bit of optimism I have; viruses are just as susceptible to evolutionary pressures as we are. And often become less lethal as they spread (killing your host is not a great way to get passed on - particularly with symptomatic/severe cases being quarantined).
It seems that those variants which cause milder symptoms are more likely to be passed on, which can be like a natural attenuation (something we do to pathogens to make some vaccines). So it may be that the variants which reach us first are less lethal, giving us some protection.
But then there is a whole complicated question about how much of being a mild case is host driven, and how much is due to the virus.
Anyway. Wash your hands.
Anyone else get the sense it's already in Australia & the Government is preparing us for the fallout given this ramp up in media interest?
Won't be at all surprised if more cases show in the next few days. It's coming.
Won't be at all surprised if more cases show in the next few days. It's coming.
Definitely doing their best to avoid panic. Dr Sutton slipped up yesterday.
Nearly 1500 Chinese students arrived on February 21-22. Wouldn't surprise if some of these students have brought the virus with them. I wouldn't want to be identified as Australia's "Patient Zero".
Yes, the subtext from around the world changed over the weekend from the bushfire equivalent of "Advice" to "Watch and Act". "Evacuate" isn't an option!
The WHO are so busy treading on eggshells as to not offend anyone or upset economies that the information has been watered down to the point of confusion.
Have not been impressed by the way they've handled this one iota.
Have not been impressed by the way they've handled this one iota.
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