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Coronavirus
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i get that it will be difficult to manage an elimination strategy, but the alternative may not be better.
when will states with no cases open to those that do?
and has region/state/country in the world been able to manage small outbreaks without a harsh lockdown?
maybe some asian countries have- what do they do? maybe wear masks and maybe have less large household gatherings??
i really dont see how we will stop outbreaks like we have in Vic happening while the virus is out there, and i dont see "clean" states opening their borders to state where the virus is circulating.
So stage 4 didn't happen today despite the rumours. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
I say it just sound bloody infectious. The source is incidental. Could have happened at the shops.
Premature 2 days ago we had 177 the next day jumped to 270 today 238 so all over the place and nearly all community.
Only if they were employing the same guards as quarantine did
Dan better hope they show a lot of incidental sources. BLM protests now being linked to Nth Melb housing commission outbreaks. NSW casula hotel linked to VIC outbreaks. All VIC outbreaks potentially linking back to hotel quarantine.
If Dan survives all this we will have to start calling him BAM.
If you eliminate it, foreigners can still enter the country, we just mandate they are tested before they leave their place of origin and on arrival, and/or go into quarantine when they get here.
Repeated shutdowns whenever numbers get too high provide zero certainty, and *smile* with people's hip pockets and mental health.
If we eliminated it, and Australians spent all the money they normally spend on overseas trips domestically, our tourism industry would be no worse off.
It's not a perfect solution, but there isn't a perfect solution to this another than a 100% effective vaccine.
Speaking to Mum who's in rehab after a bad fall... One of the nurses there is telling everyone the virus is a hoax. Another nurse said "That'd be - - - - - -. Don't mention anti-vax, she's big on that too!"
This indeed is the bind.
If there is no vaccine and/or effective treatment what do we do?
Elimination is possibly an option if we only allow people in from countries where it has been eliminated.
But, also, if we don't eliminate it from the human population in the absence of a vaccine or treatment, do we accept having a virulent virus going around the population knocking off thousands of people every year?
It is a very difficult question to answer.
Just as a by the way: smallpox was eliminated but it was eliminated with an effective vaccine. To eliminate without a vaccine you would need to ensure nobody has the virus, and that means long periods of quarantine.
MDJazz, yes, it is very noticeable that the lockdown this time is not as effective as the first time. When I go down the street or go for a ride there are way more people around. It is not even close to as quiet as it was the first time around. People need to get the message, other than the 4 purposes listed, bloody well stay at home.
DS
We don't have the same restrictions as last time.
All the states 16, 17 and 18 year olds are, still going from their hundreds of thousands of homes to their hundreds of different schools every day.
Plus all the accessory movement involved with that.
