Really ? What about the 5k removed but you can’t have any visitors over . Government are “ playing with “ the community now
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Dr Chant hasn't fronted again today. Wouldn't be surprised if she's had enough of Golden Gladys after saying they should lock down harder yesterday.
The NSW Tweet:
87 cases under investigation, it's when this number gets larger that contact tracing becomes damned near impossible. 87 to trace, who have they visited, where have they been, have the people they have seen been anywhere else, how many steps away from the infected person do you go? Difficult.
60 cases infectious in the community and 32 under investigation as to whether they were in the community or isolating.
This does not look easy to control given the delta variant is infectious earlier.
DS
87 cases under investigation, it's when this number gets larger that contact tracing becomes damned near impossible. 87 to trace, who have they visited, where have they been, have the people they have seen been anywhere else, how many steps away from the infected person do you go? Difficult.
60 cases infectious in the community and 32 under investigation as to whether they were in the community or isolating.
This does not look easy to control given the delta variant is infectious earlier.
DS
Yeh, Andrews has spoken well. He has been measured and hasn't boasted but has been pointed in his comments. Some silly questions put to him.
Gladys needs to swallow her ego and as suggested on here replicate what happened here. The spread is happening mainly from home visits, people disappointingly but obviously cannot manage themselves. For the good of the rest of the country NSW has to make changes.
Dan has made it clear that
- we know what worked in Victoria
- What NSW does effects the whole country
- we can offer advice on what has worked as a package
- clearly frustrated beyond belief NSW hasn’t changed IMO
Not saying anything most people aren’t thinking.
- we know what worked in Victoria
- What NSW does effects the whole country
- we can offer advice on what has worked as a package
- clearly frustrated beyond belief NSW hasn’t changed IMO
Not saying anything most people aren’t thinking.
They cant contact trace so they need to stop as much movement as possible. as has been pointed out they arent doing this so cases will continue.
to me they really have the choice of continuing as they are for a long time, or lockdown harded.
you are right, we should remove all restrictions so we can go back into lockdown in a couple of weeks.
The numbers are already too great for contact tracers. If they are serious about curbing the spread, then they need to lockdown harder across all of Sydney. Don't they say each case could have primary contacts anywhere from 6-10? In order for contact tracers to get on top they need to be ahead of the game with secondary contacts (which are those primary contacts, primary contacts), so 87 under investigation could have anyway from 3,000 to 9,000 primary and secondary contacts (extrapolating it out). Thats the minimum daily increase, no way they have the capacity for that.
I'd said earlier in the week, that Gladys has focused too much on SW Sydney (almost ignoring the rest despite 25% of cases being outside of SW Sydney). The rhetoric was essentially, its those dirty poor areas, the rest of you are fine. Now we find that cases are growing in Western Sydney. The spread will continue unless they actively lockdown all of Sydney to the 5km rule and ensure all shops are closed.
Don't hold your breath (unless you don't want covid) cause Gladys isn't about to lock down harder any time soon. She's more likely to open it up given her 'freedom' rhetoric.
Gladys saying she hopes to make a decision on Sydney's lockdown tomorrow. Not sure what sort of decisions you can make when infections are rising.
No doubt she should lock down harder but it's all for zero regardless if those *smile* idiots up there don't stop ignoring the restrictions and keep on visiting their families.
Whilst she states "don't go and see your mum" etc. have they actually declared 1 of the rules around lockdown, is no visitors in the home or is it another 1 of their grey areas? I don't remember seeing it stated anywhere so I might have missed it that they had stated that no visitors were allowed.
Visitors to a residence in Greater Sydney
Generally, visiting another person is not a reasonable excuse to leave your home.You must not allow a person to visit your home, except if it is
- for permitted work
- for childcare
- to give effect to arrangements between parents and children under 18 or their siblings
- to assist a person to move places of residence
- to avoid an injury or serious risk of harm
- because of an emergency
- to view or inspect property to lease or purchase it.
They have the rules, people obviously choose to ignore them.
Yep this is where a curfew and a radius makes it easy to police those rules because most of this stuff (other than moving house perhaps) would happen outside of 9-5 hours.
I didn’t originally agree with it but given we have proven again and again you can’t trust everyone and it only take a few *smile* to screw it up then this gives you a very easy way to police the rules. Way too easy to break the rules invisibly for your own personal reasons if you are a flouter. Much harder if you want a dance party at your house after work if there is a curfew Or even go around somewhere for a dinner party and then come home.
I didn’t originally agree with it but given we have proven again and again you can’t trust everyone and it only take a few *smile* to screw it up then this gives you a very easy way to police the rules. Way too easy to break the rules invisibly for your own personal reasons if you are a flouter. Much harder if you want a dance party at your house after work if there is a curfew Or even go around somewhere for a dinner party and then come home.
I'm pissed off at NSW as a whole. They are not doing what they should be and have been complaining for weeks how hard the lockdown is when they haven't even done it right.
You either eliminate delta or it eliminates the rest of Australia, it's people, it's health system and its economy.
The way exemptions and "essential" workers operate it's only a matter of when delta spreads to other states.
I say this as a resident of Modbury in SA who is dealing with the delta strain and the lockdown restrictions.
You either eliminate delta or it eliminates the rest of Australia, it's people, it's health system and its economy.
The way exemptions and "essential" workers operate it's only a matter of when delta spreads to other states.
I say this as a resident of Modbury in SA who is dealing with the delta strain and the lockdown restrictions.
those removalist bastards who started the Vic outbeak and lockdown got $200 fines for not wearing masks
meanwhile, I just got a (slightly) higher speeding fine in the mail. I'm tipping I don't cause hundreds of millions of dollars hit to the economy for doing 65 in a 60 zone.
100% right - the 8pm curfew is one of the missing pieces of the NSW lockdown. If they don't want it spreading in families, and pleading with them isn't working, then they need further restrictions. You can't keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.
Talk of easing restriction on 30th of July seems crazy right now.
Shocking It’s like Shockings increase scoring rules. Gladys‘ reduce while infectious in the community rules just as effective At least some of the media aren’t beholden to her 
