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Not sure what he's trying to say here. On one had he seems to be whacking the "risk averse" while NSW flounders after attempting a little "risk balancing".

There is only one truth regarding AZ risk and that is the probability of suffering blood clots for each age group. People are going to perceive that data differently depending on personality type; there is no one-size-fits-all definition of "acceptable risk" and the writer is being hypocritical in implying that there is.
 
Ok Gov't stuffed up in not sourcing enough alternate vaccines but worrying about what we haven't got now ain't going to help, like it or not AstraZeneca remains an immediate solution and a highly effective vaccine.
If UK hadn't mass vaccinated with AZ how much worse would their death toll be?
Ask Indonesia if they would be happy with mass vaccination of AstraZeneca, (guess what NSW is just starting to ask that question now).


Australia Latest details:
approximately 6.1 million doses of the AstraZeneca have been administered in Australia, 6 deaths.


UK May figures
It found 242 cases of clotting cases and 49 deaths after an estimated 28.5 million AstraZeneca vaccines doses were administered across the UK

Do they release the UK stats by age group?
 
So NSW want all the Pfizer Australia has because they have messed up in their response, leaving the other states with none.
Cant see any problem with that.
 
Not sure what he's trying to say here. On one had he seems to be whacking the "risk averse" while NSW flounders after attempting a little "risk balancing".

There is only one truth regarding AZ risk and that is the probability of suffering blood clots for each age group. People are going to perceive that data differently depending on personality type; there is no one-size-fits-all definition of "acceptable risk" and the writer is being hypocritical in implying that there is.

 
Lorna Jane admits misleading COVID-19 ‘eliminate spread’ claims (paywalled)

Women’s sportswear retailer Lorna Jane has agreed to pay a $5m fine and admitted in court that incredible claims that its clothing could eliminate COVID-19 and prevent its spread were false and not backed by any scientific evidence.

Brisbane-based Lorna Jane Pty Ltd, founded by Lorna Jane Clarkson, is in the Federal Court this morning before Justice Darryl Rangiah where the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has taken action alleging the company breached consumer laws in misleading shoppers.

Roger Traves QC, counsel for the ACCC, told the hearing in Brisbane this morning - heard via remote technology due to the COVID-19 pandemic - that the company had agreed to pay a $5m fine for misleading consumers in 32 representations across various platforms including two Instagram stories and in media releases.

Promotional slogans included “Cure for the Spread of COVID-19? Lorna Jane Thinks So”, “With Lorna Jane Shield on our garments it meant that we were completely eliminating the possibility of spreading any deadly viruses”, and “LJ Shield – Protecting you with anti-virus activewear”.

It wrongly claimed that viruses that come into contact with the activewear are eradicated, and that LJ Shield was a “cure” for the spread of COVID-19, Mr Travers told the court.

He said the conduct was “deliberate” in that the company launched a far reaching and wide-ranging marketing campaign without proper scientific evidence, but he does not allege the company knew its claims were false.

Justice Rangiah will decide the size of the fine to be paid after hearing evidence in court today, but the company and ACCC have agreed $5m would be appropriate.

The admission of liability by the company came at the eleventh hour, with the company due to face a five day court hearing which had been set down to start last Monday and the ACCC had been due to call evidence from a scientist from South Australia.

The ACCC’s case against the company’s founder and public face, Ms Clarkson, personally has been dropped however the company admits that she authorised and personally made some of the untrue statements about virus elimination and stopping the spread, and that she was involved in crafting some of the wording of the false marketing.

Mr Traves told the court that the company had agreed it broke consumer law in July last year when it made false claims that its activewear containing LJ Shield would protect wearers against and stop the spread of and eliminate viruses including COVID-19.

The claims were made a few months after the World Health Organisation declared the virus to be a pandemic when there were over 8000 cases and 104 fatalities.

Queensland-based activewear company Lorna Jane’s marketing material

Queensland-based activewear company Lorna Jane’s marketing material

Mr Traves told the court that the company had broken the law so many times that it could not be quantified, because each contravention is each time a consumer is misled.

The company has admitted that when it launched the marketing campaign it had no concluded test results from any scientific testing and the company had not hired anyone to do testing on their clothes ability to stop the spread of viruses.

However the company does not admit they knew what they said was untrue at the time they made the statements, but now conceded the statements were made without proper scientific basis.

The $5m fine equates to gross profit for the company for two weeks, Mr Traves said.

The company posted gross revenue last financial year of $15.7m per month and gross profit of $10.6m a month.

It sells its clothing both in Australia and overseas.

The hearing is continuing today.

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Younger people are now getting very sick by the Delta variant. That's definitely changed the thinking.
It’s an interesting thought experiment how we would have acted if the risk by age group for covid was reversed and it hit the rich the same as the poor. (Young die a lot). Can’t imagine much joy for let it rip and let yourself get injected with bleach groups and a lot of focus on vaccine being a race to protect our kids and our future.
 
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So NSW want all the Pfizer Australia has because they have messed up in their response, leaving the other states with none.
Cant see any problem with that.
We should aim to minimise loss of life in Australia and not blame the victims of their leaders decisions.

unfortunately rest of Australia can’t vote in the next nsw elections.
 
We should aim to minimise loss of life in Australia and not blame the victims of their leaders decisions.

unfortunately rest of Australia can’t vote in the next nsw elections.
By extension, shouldnt we aim to minimise loss of life anywhere, and not blame people for the country they were born? By that way of thinking we should probably be sending all our vaccines to Indonesia or India.

What is happening in NSW now is scary for them, and sad to see, but i really doubt you will see other states willing to put themselves at risk to help solve a problem that is heavily the result of their own actions.
 
By extension, shouldnt we aim to minimise loss of life anywhere, and not blame people for the country they were born? By that way of thinking we should probably be sending all our vaccines to Indonesia or India.

What is happening in NSW now is scary for them, and sad to see, but i really doubt you will see other states willing to put themselves at risk to help solve a problem that is heavily the result of their own actions.
we are sending unwanted AZ overseas unfortunately

I’m ok with nationalism on vaccine war. But yes that point is valid too on a global scale.

Don’t disagree that the other states may not go along with it though.

‘Their’ in this case is mainly the leadership decisions and not the general population of NsW. Although I’m sure some of the hubris rubbed off on many too.
 
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Bunch of apartment complexes just added as Tier 2 sites.
Yeah 5 separate apartment complexes across Richmond, Cremorne, Hawthorns and Camberwell. Going back a week in some cases. Not confirmed but fair chance they are linked to the Prahran market exposure (my opinion only).

But all of them Tier 2 exposure sites. I'm still not sure how they characterise the difference between Tiers 1 & 2 in some cases.