Agreed Aces, the shot of all the coaches pondering things in the box after the game didn’t fill me with the same reassurance as it usually does.
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Agreed Aces, the shot of all the coaches pondering things in the box after the game didn’t fill me with the same reassurance as it usually does.
Happened again last night. Our smarts or lack of in the coaches box is telling.
So which high quality assistant coaches should we be targeting for next year?
In particular a new ball movement and forward coach would be handy..
In particular a new ball movement and forward coach would be handy..
100% agree. this is where a problem sits. don't feel we really replaced them.
whats a General without his Lieutenants ?
Still think this is relevant for last nights game - we do need to tinker a little with our game style though, not though it out.
How effective is the small forward pressure gameplan in the current evolution of the game?
Looked to me like we used up a lot of petrol tickets in the first term of the game on the wide open spaces of the G yesterday.
Remember we haven't played much footy on the larger ground since they tinkered with the rules & now we've been touched up twice this year on our own deck.
All of Rioli, Aarts & Castagna were burnt out by quarter time & ineffective thereafter. Good sides by foot & hand won't turn it over like the lesser clubs do. There's a lot more room to execute.
It's time for a rethink.
Looked to me like we used up a lot of petrol tickets in the first term of the game on the wide open spaces of the G yesterday.
Remember we haven't played much footy on the larger ground since they tinkered with the rules & now we've been touched up twice this year on our own deck.
All of Rioli, Aarts & Castagna were burnt out by quarter time & ineffective thereafter. Good sides by foot & hand won't turn it over like the lesser clubs do. There's a lot more room to execute.
It's time for a rethink.
The players also need to be encouraged to take their shots when coming into goal. This sharing around ethos is costing goals.
Dimma’s post-match was reassuring. He’s on top of it.
Melbourne’s defensive structures were too good for us, and ours didn’t hold up. New challenge. Players and coaches will be looking for answers that they currently don’t have. It’s up to everyone to brainstorm and find a way.
We’re probably not in the box seat to win the premiership yet, but we weren’t in the box seat early in the season in previous years either, and we do have a great group of people who are problem-solvers. Things can change quickly, but it’s not guaranteed. With less coaching support, perhaps more answers will need to come directly from the playing group.
The coach is doing an excellent job at wasting no time IMO. A majority of other coaches make basic excuses and show bias in this situation all the time, but Dimma was first class and that attitude will speed up their learning.
We also lost 2 goals by not sharing it:
1. Lynch 40m on the boundary with time, Aarts free over the top 20m out in space
2. George 40m out under pressure, with Shai free in space closer to goal
Selflessness builds confidence, brings others into the game, and fosters team morale. It’s been a key feature of ours in 3 premierships. Gotta persist with it IMO
Melbourne’s defensive structures were too good for us, and ours didn’t hold up. New challenge. Players and coaches will be looking for answers that they currently don’t have. It’s up to everyone to brainstorm and find a way.
We’re probably not in the box seat to win the premiership yet, but we weren’t in the box seat early in the season in previous years either, and we do have a great group of people who are problem-solvers. Things can change quickly, but it’s not guaranteed. With less coaching support, perhaps more answers will need to come directly from the playing group.
The coach is doing an excellent job at wasting no time IMO. A majority of other coaches make basic excuses and show bias in this situation all the time, but Dimma was first class and that attitude will speed up their learning.
We also lost 2 goals by not sharing it:
1. Lynch 40m on the boundary with time, Aarts free over the top 20m out in space
2. George 40m out under pressure, with Shai free in space closer to goal
Selflessness builds confidence, brings others into the game, and fosters team morale. It’s been a key feature of ours in 3 premierships. Gotta persist with it IMO
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It is clear that we are a bit down, it is clear that the game has changed, not hugely but enough to need to tweak a few things.
I think the defending space strategy is looking a lot less important than it was. The way the game is being played at the moment is such that teams are able to get around this utilising short passes and handballs and going deliberately around the boundary. We are using players, and taxing their fitness, by blocking space in the corridor which is not being used. Plus, with less rotations it may just be too taxing on our players. We have to find a better way to combat both the switch and the chip it up the boundary strategies.
We also need to look at doing a few things differently as we are not getting the ball forward effectively. I think we are too predictable when we attack out of defence. That can work if it is very fast and we can get a jump on the opposition's defence, otherwise we need to look at mixing it up more. Look at the way we started to handball and pass sideways in the Port game, it was quite noticeable and it disrupted the Port defence as we were less predictable. We are the chaos team but at the moment we are less chaotic and just too predictable.
Although we are still defending well our players are getting very tired blocking space for little reward as the opposition is going around the blocked space anyway. Yes this slows them down and we can set up better but it is too taxing on our players with the reduction in rotations and it isn't working.
We will be better with players back, but they ain't back for a little while so time to tweak how we attack and how we defend. We are not using the space available in attack and are getting very crowded, our forwards need more separation. We need to be going sideways sometimes, mix it up. If the forward line is congested then stretch the defence out by going sideways, make them defend more territory - finding space in the forward line is damned hard in the modern game but on the MCG it should be doable.
One thing to remember, in 2020 we were 3-1-2 after 6 rounds. We made top 4 with only 11 rounds to follow. We have more time to sort things out this year as we still have 16 rounds to go.
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I think the defending space strategy is looking a lot less important than it was. The way the game is being played at the moment is such that teams are able to get around this utilising short passes and handballs and going deliberately around the boundary. We are using players, and taxing their fitness, by blocking space in the corridor which is not being used. Plus, with less rotations it may just be too taxing on our players. We have to find a better way to combat both the switch and the chip it up the boundary strategies.
We also need to look at doing a few things differently as we are not getting the ball forward effectively. I think we are too predictable when we attack out of defence. That can work if it is very fast and we can get a jump on the opposition's defence, otherwise we need to look at mixing it up more. Look at the way we started to handball and pass sideways in the Port game, it was quite noticeable and it disrupted the Port defence as we were less predictable. We are the chaos team but at the moment we are less chaotic and just too predictable.
Although we are still defending well our players are getting very tired blocking space for little reward as the opposition is going around the blocked space anyway. Yes this slows them down and we can set up better but it is too taxing on our players with the reduction in rotations and it isn't working.
We will be better with players back, but they ain't back for a little while so time to tweak how we attack and how we defend. We are not using the space available in attack and are getting very crowded, our forwards need more separation. We need to be going sideways sometimes, mix it up. If the forward line is congested then stretch the defence out by going sideways, make them defend more territory - finding space in the forward line is damned hard in the modern game but on the MCG it should be doable.
One thing to remember, in 2020 we were 3-1-2 after 6 rounds. We made top 4 with only 11 rounds to follow. We have more time to sort things out this year as we still have 16 rounds to go.
DS
I think it has been part parcel of richmond to always start the season poorly (except 2016 and 2018) and then finish strong so I'm sure Dimma is not too fazed. Like in 2015 we started 2-4 and still finished 15-7, we won 9 in a row in 2014, went from 5-4 in 2017 to 15-7, went from 7-6 to 16-6 in 2019 and 2020 we looked un richmond like up until like the north or bulldogs games. Looking at our fixture, we dont play melbourne, port and sydney again until finals if we meet which is good and we have very winnable games against north, giants twice, saints, adelaide, hawthorn, gold coast and collingwood. Assuming we beat all those teams and only win 4 of the other 8 (bulldogs, geelong, geelong, essendon, freo, lions, lions and eagles) we would have a record of 15-7 which would likely result in a top 4 finish
At this Level and you have the ball up to 45m out and in the corridor a shot should be first option and a high percent conversion rate. Rilio had ball twice in last q in that position and first instinct was to turn away from goal and handball backwards. But far from only offender.
We need more footballers who can hit a target. Too many with ropey disposal. The effort is there, the much required precision is not.
