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Hardwick

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Found Dimma's presser quite interesting.
Seems like he wants Houli back ASAP with the new rules & I can't blame him. He & his footy dept can see what's happening.
The need is for fast smart thinking, players with great disposal.
Slower players with poor foot skills are going to find it tougher to survive in this rapidly evolving game..
Interesting times.
 
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theglove3

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Jun 3, 2003
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Wonder weather there'll be 75,000 people in the forward line this week?
Dimma's comments after our 1st match away from Melbourne last year which we won 4 goals to 3 in a shoot out!:))
 

craig

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Found Dimma's presser quite interesting.
Seems like he wants Houli back ASAP with the new rules & I can't blame him. He & his footy dept can see what's happening.
The need is for fast smart thinking, players with great disposal.
Slower players with poor foot skills are going to find it tougher to survive in this rapidly evolving game..
Interesting times.
Caddy and Aarts types will see less games as this season rolls on.
 

TigerForce

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Found Dimma's presser quite interesting.
Seems like he wants Houli back ASAP with the new rules & I can't blame him. He & his footy dept can see what's happening.
The need is for fast smart thinking, players with great disposal.
Slower players with poor foot skills are going to find it tougher to survive in this rapidly evolving game..
Interesting times.
Makes you wonder what else SHocking is gonna come up with against us.
 
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Jason King

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Is this the end of chaos?

Just watching the West Coke mob absolutely carve up the Port Adelaide Swampies with precision kicking and controlled tempo.

The Swans did the same today, very clever tempo and ball use and were able to pick us apart. We couldn't get near them let alone apply pressure.

These new rules create space and allow separation as well as more free flowing play. I think the spacing created by the man on the mark rule is our biggest issue.

Even at the height of our success we have never been a great kicking side and Short is probably our best kick along with Dusty and even Edwards now.

Looking at Eggy he wasn't able to get the ball enough and when he did it was always under pressure. Shorty couldn't hit s target to save his life today.

Maybe we were just down today.. but who are the kids with the laser beam field kicking?
 
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seven

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Zoning might be dead.
Chip and mark plan seems to work best with the new rules.
 
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Is this the end of chaos?

Just watching the West Coke mob absolutely carve up the Port Adelaide Swampies with precision kicking and controlled tempo.

The Swans did the same today, very clever tempo and ball use and were able to pick us apart. We couldn't get near them let alone apply pressure.

These new rules create space and allow separation as well as more free flowing play. I think the spacing created by the man on the mark rule is our biggest issue.

Even at the height of our success we have never been a great kicking side and Short is probably our best kick along with Dusty and even Edwards now.

Looking at Eggy he wasn't able to get the ball enough and when he did it was always under pressure. Shorty couldn't hit s target to save his life today.

Maybe we were just down today.. but who are the kids with the laser beam field kicking?
Yep we are playing a different game. Throw it all in the bin. Time for fresh thinking.
 
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Merveille

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Is this the end of chaos?

Just watching the West Coke mob absolutely carve up the Port Adelaide Swampies with precision kicking and controlled tempo.

The Swans did the same today, very clever tempo and ball use and were able to pick us apart. We couldn't get near them let alone apply pressure.

These new rules create space and allow separation as well as more free flowing play. I think the spacing created by the man on the mark rule is our biggest issue.

Even at the height of our success we have never been a great kicking side and Short is probably our best kick along with Dusty and even Edwards now.

Looking at Eggy he wasn't able to get the ball enough and when he did it was always under pressure. Shorty couldn't hit s target to save his life today.

Maybe we were just down today.. but who are the kids with the laser beam field kicking?
But - what happens when wet, or windy, or both, and/or in the finals cauldron
 
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Ridley

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But - what happens when wet, or windy, or both, and/or in the finals cauldron
Fair call but the rule changes may have reduced our advantage in these areas. It’s clear from the first 3 games our pressure game is not as relevant with these new rules. We need to adjust accordingly.
 
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Tigers2011

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May 6, 2007
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Today’s game was similar to the 2018 PF loss & Rd 2 2019 loss to Collingwood. Both lost on opposition controlling ball via short field kicking. Only counter that by winning clearance/contested ball & playing man on man not a zone. Hardwick isn’t great at dealing with the strategy we had against us today - will be interesting to see what his solution is.
 
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DavidSSS

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But - what happens when wet, or windy, or both, and/or in the finals cauldron

Fair point, but, conversely, what happens if the wet, the wind and the finals cauldron don't mean that pressure football works.

The thing is that pressure has been a big factor in football for years, but the way the game is being played at the moment it is far less of a factor. Teams are able to open up space and avoid pressure.

Unless the ability to avoid pressure is somehow counteracted we are going to see the game look like basketball for a long time. I have nothing against basketball per se but it isn't Australian Rules Football.

DS
 

Jason King

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Yep we are playing a different game. Throw it all in the bin. Time for fresh thinking.
Legitimately very worried about what Port, WB, West Coast or the Lions will do against us if we play this style.

Maybe it's just as simple as we had a bad day across the board. Still it's a massive worry when we have an extra defender back and they have an extra in the midfield and they were still able to pinpoint fwd 50 entries with ease.
 

Carter

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Folks have gotta remember one critical factor - normally, when the midfield is functioning as it should, we actually shut down the short pass and force the long ball.

Is the short pass easier with the new stand rule? Probably, but I still think our midfield was well down yesterday.

Not enough evidence either way at this point. Personally I think the system just needs mild tinkering at most.

The improvement will come from conditioning and effort.
 

Smoking Aces

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Sep 21, 2007
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Folks have gotta remember one critical factor - normally, when the midfield is functioning as it should, we actually shut down the short pass and force the long ball.

Is the short pass easier with the new stand rule? Probably, but I still think our midfield was well down yesterday.

Not enough evidence either way at this point. Personally I think the system just needs mild tinkering at most.

The improvement will come from conditioning and effort.
You make great points Carter. My concern only is the amount of lost football IQ out of the coaches box. Leppa and McRae are no football dummies.
 
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