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Ivan Soldo
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Let’s face it, Hawkins kind of ruined his career with that knee injury. Never been the same since. Didn’t even get a free kick for that incident either.
Good trade for us. Wish we made another one like it.
Good trade for us. Wish we made another one like it.
Like many of them *smile* at sleepy hollow.... ie; Dangerfield, Stewart, Selwood..... Hawkins is another of their protected, media love children!
Compare it with when Lynch rubbed a blokes nose in the dirt and The Heraldsun produced a 12 page souvenir lift out.
More plastic than my Kmart brown football growing up.
Not so sure about that statement. Big games/finals are usually when they shine. Poor ones generally get exposed.
I agree with a previous poster that the Hawkins shove derailed Soldo's career. He was a massive improver at that stage but has struggled to get anywhere near that form again.
At least until the AFL honchos figure out how to screw us over with some abrupt rule changes in that eventuality.
Yes but it should be remembered and factored in that GoDeez, with best ruck in the business, should have beaten Skunks and ended their hopes. Got some fortunate umpiring decisions too. Sydanee not able to seriously compete for a flag without an A/B grade ruck this year or last, so grabbed Grundy. Poort same, taken Soldo. Cameron and Stanley, while not elite, are strong competitors like Nank in that respect - while either taller or more athletic.
In other words, you must have at least a solid B grade ruck to succeed; to at least compete hard and nullify an A grader to some extent, if you want to win a flag.
I think the main thing is the club does have back-up and a promising young ruck who could become a star when he bulks up more along with obtaining the greater experience he needs - from getting further exposure and opportunities.
It seemed the club wanted to keep big Eevan initially too unless those statements were just designed to up the ante for PA. I agreed initially too for the same reasons the club and many of us on here expressed. But now, for similar reasons that many others alternative views have said so well, I'm all in favour. this was a great deal for Soldo; the club effectively turned lead into some gold over his whole development and trade. And Eevan deserves to finish his career seeing if he can reach his full potential, perhaps becoming another flag ruckman for them ... if he's up to it. They (PA) have a lot of other ducks in a row to win one in '24.
It should be remembered we also have Miller and Balta who can provide some chop-out for Ryan if he has to take on No.1 role if Nank goes down for any reason again. Plus, there's Colina and the young "Wolfman' if we got really desperate. Well, a big body to obstruct the oppo at least!
I sometimes get annoyed - still sour over the Butler 'giveaway' - but I have to respect our club's preparedness to not block a player's future ambitions and best interests, especially good citizens like these who have won flags with and for us.
But they are not stupid - there is back-up within the club's list in both cases - otherwise I'm sure they may have definitely held out against this Poort deal/offer.
But Ryan is the future. And sure, it's all potential so far, but the club again spotted a gangly young tall - playing in country Qld - they are seeking to develop into a possible A grade ruck who may ultimately become better than all our recent ruckmen: taller and faster, more mobile and athletic, a better mark who can go forward and clunk a pack mark, and a very impressive kick for distance and accuracy. He's even looking agile at ground level.
It's time for Samson Ryan.
As often is the case, I endorse your comments except for your last - see above. Agree re Sambo though as stated.
So, finally, same from me for Big Ivan. Never thought you were the 'answer' as a top ruck; not a natural footballer being a late convert and never quite athletic or fast enough. However, full credit for how you turned yourself into a real competitor who lead the Tiges to a great Flag victory without our usual general, Nank.
Thanks Ivan - always.
Reckon the new basketball recruit will provide as much as Soldo so no loss as far as im concerned. I see it as a fantastic bit of business from our blokes. PA paid overs
Desperation.
Port have added 3 players not really wanted by their clubs and now they are carrying on like they have just picked up Rance, Big V and Ottens.
I hope they go bottom 4 next year.
How many picks have they thrown away in the last 3yrs
Jeebus if the Kochies miss the 8 next season ............................ its gonna be as ugly as anyone could conceive it to be.
Yeah. What effect is all that plastic having on the environment I wonder BB. As Donald Trump would say “It’s not good….it’s not good.”
Spot on. Poort have sold the farm for a bunch of B and C graders (not even high draft picks). Expect real problems if they don't win a flag in the next few years
No I know why we get the extra second rounder. Port fleeced us.
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