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zippadeee

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Who laughed when they saw Robert Harvey as a top candidate for the Job?
The Collingwood supporters wouldn't have helped his cause with the constantly shitt canning he was copping on radio in the last couple of weeks.
I bet the mob is very happy he now stays at the Lexus centre.:D
 
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zippadeee

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What's the old codger going to do without his partner?
No more Stats??
 
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Tenacious

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The player I feel very sorry for now is the second best kid in the country who will end up being drafted/condemned to spend at least the next two years at this basket case club.
 

zippadeee

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Hardwick was sure up against halfway through his first year 23.

‘Worse then Fitzroy’

We were at lowest in 2010. Hardwick was set at zero.
To think 3 years later he had us in the finals was an unbelievable achievement.
His record looking at it now is unbelievable.
2010. 0
2011.0
2012. 0
2013. Finals
2014. Finals
2015. Finals
2016. 0
2017. Flag
2018. Finals
2019. Flag
2020. Flag

The media don't compliment Hardwick like they do Clarkson or Scott.
Hardwick currently is the best coach in the comp by a country mile.
Not sure why Simpson and longmire are held high regard either.
 
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TigerMasochist

Walks softly carries a big stick.
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Yep, he’s gunna be up against it from the start. North are at rock bottom so aren’t going to be winning too many games which means he,ll have a poor win/loss record which will put the pressure on. Like Neeld at Melbourne, Bolton at Carlton.
Or like a Dimma at ............................................................................................... Oh wait, this is #lolnorf we're talking about.
 

TigerMasochist

Walks softly carries a big stick.
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He won't last 3 years. Maybe 4 because it is North Melbourne.
Not sure using the old codger as a guide to selecting a coach is a good idea.

Leppa, Voss, Carcella or Knights would've been my top candidates
Well I suppose three of those young blokes have experience at coaching losing teams n getting sacked, at least that will stand them in good stead for future coaching jobs.
 

Brodders17

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Good on Noble. Unlikely to have got a job under any other circumstance but gee, it is going to be a tough gig for him and the AFL not known for giving coaches second chances if you aren't successful the first time.
WIthout knowing much about him, it is probably a good appt, in that he will help sell the calm measured approach. I dont think there will be the expectation he will take them to a premiership, but will be seen to be planning the transition to success. as long he can sell the narrative so to speak.
he will have a couple of years where they dont need to win much, but they need to have a timeline and communicate that, and then be somewhere close to achieving it.
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

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Jun 4, 2006
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We were at lowest in 2010. Hardwick was set at zero.
It's a long way back from worst ever.

Record
Number of coaches
Hardwick %
Hardwick rank among worst
0-1
189​
53.3​
37th
0-2
108​
46.7​
11th
0-3
64​
47.9​
7th
0-4
44​
50.8​
3rd
0-5
31​
53.5​
7th
0-6
27​
49.1​
2nd
0-7
21
49.5
1st
0-8
18​
53.9​
4th
0-9
13​
56.2​
5th
1-9
36​
61.6​
17th

The second-bottom side put 8 goals past us in the last quarter in Round 7 and our percentage actually improved.
 
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Long Lost Hernaman

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Oct 19, 2007
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Always very easy with the benefit of hindsight but in 2010, we had a nucleus of quality or potential quality in Lids, Jack, Trent, Dustin, Grimes, Astbury and Edwards.

The north appointment seems understandable and safe. I think the major issue is their list. They will be paying the price for list management and strategy during the Scott era for years to come.
 

Long Lost Hernaman

Tiger Rookie
Oct 19, 2007
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82
Oldest coaches on debut

GmsCoachAgeClubWLDW%%Best
Alexander, Lisa (hypothetically)57y112d
87*Fagan, Chris55y275dBr4146047.194.74th/18
12Walsh, Phillip55y21dAd75058.3109.16th*/18
1Williams, Tommy C.54y268dFi0100.043.212th*/12
38Thomas, Hughie54y126dSt828223.774.09th/12
0*Noble, David53y309dNM
13Noonan, Paddy53y270dNM11207.762.812th*/12
9Melling, Ted53y178dFi44150.0109.45th*/9
36Gaudion, Charlie52yNM1125030.682.38th/12
66McCartney, Brendan51y161dWB2046030.377.914th/18
36Faul, Bill50y313dSy1224033.381.58th/12
1Patterson, Bill G.49y332dSt0100.068.78th*/12
45Todd, John49y317dWC2025044.498.45th/14
8Pemberton, Jack48y188dNM0800.060.312th*/12
62Baldock, Darrel48y180dSt1844029.086.510th/14
414​
142​
269​
3​
34.7​
85.4​
4th

Fagan is making a decent fist of it, but it's a young man's game.
John Todd coached my old team Swan Districts. Was great in the early 80's. An unhinged lunatic by the time they let him in charge of the Eagles.
 

tigertim

something funny is written here
Mar 6, 2004
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So I wonder what Norths philosophy will be after dumping 13 players? With list sizes to be between 37-44 do they go the lesser 37 thinking “well we know we,re not going to be great in the next few seasons so no point loading up only to cull and extra 7 we,ll keep it to a minimum” or do they say “we know we,re not going to be great in the next few seasons so let’s load up with 44 and see as many players as we can and sort the wheat from the chaff”?
 

Tiger Rob

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Jul 30, 2009
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So I wonder what Norths philosophy will be after dumping 13 players? With list sizes to be between 37-44 do they go the lesser 37 thinking “well we know we,re not going to be great in the next few seasons so no point loading up only to cull and extra 7 we,ll keep it to a minimum” or do they say “we know we,re not going to be great in the next few seasons so let’s load up with 44 and see as many players as we can and sort the wheat from the chaff”?
With a minimum spend in the salary cap there will be quite a few guys being paid well overs if they only have 37. Logic says they go for 44, but do they have enough picks? And what type will they get in the very late rounds anyway? What a *smile* storm.
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

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With a minimum spend in the salary cap there will be quite a few guys being paid well overs if they only have 37. Logic says they go for 44, but do they have enough picks? And what type will they get in the very late rounds anyway? What a *smile* storm.
We were in a similar position with the exodus at the end of 2009. Martin/Griffiths/Astbury/Dea/Taylor/Webberley/Nason in the ND, with Nahas and Browne upgraded. Then six rookies added (including the delisted Polak) who never amounted to much.

They're not going to solve their list problems in one year unless they're psychic. Yeah, big trouble. This is the closest thing to a Hardwick-style rebuild since Hardwick.
 
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CarnTheTiges

This is a REAL tiger
Mar 8, 2004
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We were in a similar position with the exodus at the end of 2009. Martin/Griffiths/Astbury/Dea/Taylor/Webberley/Nason in the ND, with Nahas and Browne upgraded. Then six rookies added (including the delisted Polak) who never amounted to much.

They're not going to solve their list problems in one year unless they're psychic. Yeah, big trouble. This is the closest thing to a Hardwick-style rebuild since Hardwick.
One big difference is that #lolnorf’s dysfunctional board won’t back Noble, the way ours backed Hardwick.
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

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One big difference is that #lolnorf’s dysfunctional board won’t back Noble, the way ours backed Hardwick.
You'd think they've received some sort of guarantee from the AFL as to their survival. Plenty of big bumps in the road even in Hardwick's success story.

It's a gutsy move for a small club. I wish them well, but not too well.
 

Tenacious

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So I wonder what Norths philosophy will be after dumping 13 players? With list sizes to be between 37-44 do they go the lesser 37 thinking “well we know we,re not going to be great in the next few seasons so no point loading up only to cull and extra 7 we,ll keep it to a minimum” or do they say “we know we,re not going to be great in the next few seasons so let’s load up with 44 and see as many players as we can and sort the wheat from the chaff”?

Draft as many Tasmanians as possible so that when they relocate in a few years time they improve their chances of retaining a few of them
 
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