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North Korea test Nuclear Bomb

an_oxford_man

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jb03 said:
I would have thought many countries have absurd foreign policy, including North Korea but I don;t read criticisms of any other countries, just the USA.

The USA are supposed to be the world super power. They should set a good example.
 

Michael

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Nov 30, 2004
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This is an interesting one.

The south has everything, trade, money and now industry
The north now has something the south doesnt have - a bomb

Mind you the south and the japs could probably develop them very quickly. Plus they have a mate that's got plenty.

So what is the north up to?
Cant be to relieve sanctions, as they will now increase. Could upset the Chinese as well. Leaving the north without any friends.
Could be KimJong just boosting his ego
Could be developing arms to sell - but who would deal with them?
 

Lidsand

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jb03 said:
LidsandBling said:
jb03 said:
It is not the Americans testing nuclear bombs. Why is everyone so Anti-American?

they open themselves up to be critisised by having such absurd foreign policy.

I would have thought many countries have absurd foreign policy, including North Korea but I don;t read criticisms of any other countries, just the USA.

haven't read the papers today?
 

Lidsand

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Michael said:
This is an interesting one.

The south has everything, trade, money and now industry
The north now has something the south doesnt have - a bomb

Mind you the south and the japs could probably develop them very quickly. Plus they have a mate that's got plenty.

So what is the north up to?
Cant be to relieve sanctions, as they will now increase. Could upset the Chinese as well. Leaving the north without any friends.
Could be KimJong just boosting his ego
Could be developing arms to sell - but who would deal with them?

maybe they just want them to protect themselves and their borders.. it might be that simple
 

Michael

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Nov 30, 2004
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LidsandBling said:
Michael said:
This is an interesting one.

The south has everything, trade, money and now industry
The north now has something the south doesnt have - a bomb

Mind you the south and the japs could probably develop them very quickly. Plus they have a mate that's got plenty.

So what is the north up to?
Cant be to relieve sanctions, as they will now increase. Could upset the Chinese as well. Leaving the north without any friends.
Could be KimJong just boosting his ego
Could be developing arms to sell - but who would deal with them?

maybe they just want them to protect themselves and their borders.. it might be that simple

From who?
The south?
 

Lidsand

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Oct 12, 2005
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Michael said:
LidsandBling said:
Michael said:
This is an interesting one.

The south has everything, trade, money and now industry
The north now has something the south doesnt have - a bomb

Mind you the south and the japs could probably develop them very quickly. Plus they have a mate that's got plenty.

So what is the north up to?
Cant be to relieve sanctions, as they will now increase. Could upset the Chinese as well. Leaving the north without any friends.
Could be KimJong just boosting his ego
Could be developing arms to sell - but who would deal with them?

maybe they just want them to protect themselves and their borders.. it might be that simple

From who?
The south?

todays allies will be tomorrows foes. who knows
 

Michael

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Nov 30, 2004
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LidsandBling said:
Michael said:
LidsandBling said:
Michael said:
This is an interesting one.

The south has everything, trade, money and now industry
The north now has something the south doesnt have - a bomb

Mind you the south and the japs could probably develop them very quickly. Plus they have a mate that's got plenty.

So what is the north up to?
Cant be to relieve sanctions, as they will now increase. Could upset the Chinese as well. Leaving the north without any friends.
Could be KimJong just boosting his ego
Could be developing arms to sell - but who would deal with them?

maybe they just want them to protect themselves and their borders.. it might be that simple

From who?
The south?

todays allies will be tomorrows foes. who knows

eddie mcguire?
 

Ready

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Aug 21, 2004
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L&B, there is a lot to question about US foreign policy, but North Korea is one of the most wretched places on earth. Millions of people eat the bark off trees while the leadership builds monuments to itself and pumps what money it has into the armed forces in order to keep the people suppressed and the despots in power.
 

Lidsand

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Ready said:
L&B, there is a lot to question about US foreign policy, but North Korea is one of the most wretched places on earth. Millions of people eat the bark off trees while the leadership builds monuments to itself and pumps what money it has into the armed forces in order to keep the people suppressed and the despots in power.

ever been to baltimore, south central LA, southern states of usa. there is poverty everywhere man. yes, even in america. despite what you see on TV
 

jb03

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LidsandBling said:
Ready said:
L&B, there is a lot to question about US foreign policy, but North Korea is one of the most wretched places on earth. Millions of people eat the bark off trees while the leadership builds monuments to itself and pumps what money it has into the armed forces in order to keep the people suppressed and the despots in power.

ever been to baltimore, south central LA, southern states of usa. there is poverty everywhere man. yes, even in america. despite what you see on TV

Didn't see on Beverley Hills 90210, or even at Melrose Place for that matter.
 

Lidsand

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jb03 said:
LidsandBling said:
Ready said:
L&B, there is a lot to question about US foreign policy, but North Korea is one of the most wretched places on earth. Millions of people eat the bark off trees while the leadership builds monuments to itself and pumps what money it has into the armed forces in order to keep the people suppressed and the despots in power.

ever been to baltimore, south central LA, southern states of usa. there is poverty everywhere man. yes, even in america. despite what you see on TV

Didn't see on Beverley Hills 90210, or even at Melrose Place for that matter.

i cant believe i used to watch that rubbish. whatever happened to jason priestley?
 

feisty tige

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Oct 15, 2003
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Ready said:
L&B, there is a lot to question about US foreign policy, but North Korea is one of the most wretched places on earth. Millions of people eat the bark off trees while the leadership builds monuments to itself and pumps what money it has into the armed forces in order to keep the people suppressed and the despots in power.

I think Clinton was trying to get to some trade agreement, then Bush came into power and pretty much said, nup, and the tensions rose... the North wanted good trade arrangements and now that Bush is in power they aren't getting what they want/need....

talking about the government pumping money into the armed forces... September 11 happens and America needs more arms etc... who gets the contracts but the buddies of government??.... who goes into the army, the young unemployed??....

I hate politics. Why can't we put the money where it is needed instead of putting it into development of weapons of mass destruction that they cannot find anyway.....and when they can find it can't do anything about it....



Argh!    :help     :blah
 

Ready

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LidsandBling said:
Ready said:
L&B, there is a lot to question about US foreign policy, but North Korea is one of the most wretched places on earth. Millions of people eat the bark off trees while the leadership builds monuments to itself and pumps what money it has into the armed forces in order to keep the people suppressed and the despots in power.

ever been to baltimore, south central LA, southern states of usa. there is poverty everywhere man. yes, even in america. despite what you see on TV

I believe I just wrote that there is a lot to question about US foreign policy. Add to that US domestic affairs. At least a person in South Central LA has access to information and facts about the irresponsibility of the US government. At least a person in South Central LA can voice their disapproval of the systematic neglect and and the long-standing lack of action to improve their living conditions. In North Korea the citizen is told from birth to worship the "Great Leader" and "Dear Leader". The authorities blame the famine on the outside world, and not on their propensity to build unnecessary monuments or to simply steal large amounts of what the country has for their own personal use. Anyone who disboeys the regime or questions its authority or motives finds themself in a forced labour camp.  
 

Lidsand

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just because the poor and needy in the states know of a different way it doesn't make their lives much better than the ignorant citizens of nth korea. same same
 

Ready

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An impoverished American has freedom of thought.
An impoverished American has the freedom to vote.
An impoverished American who has no food and no money to buy food at least has some chance that someone -- family, friends, charity -- will do something to help them when the government will not.
An impoverished American accused of a crime at least has recourse to a court of law.
An impoverished American will not be be thrown into a forced labour camp simply for discussing the failings of the government with another impoverished American.
An impoverished American who is the victim of injustice from the government at least has the chance that someone will speak out and bring it to public attention, even if nothing is done and the damage cannot be repaired.

A North Korean peasant has none of this. None.
 

Lidsand

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Ready said:
An impoverished American has freedom of thought. so does a nth korean
An impoverished American has the freedom to vote. so they can be thrown into a florida river
An impoverished American who has no food and no money to buy food at least has some chance that someone -- family, friends, charity -- will do something to help them when the government will not. a nth korean has it given to him
An impoverished American accused of a crime at least has recourse to a court of law. so he can be unjustly prosecuted by a unjust jury
An impoverished American will not be be thrown into a forced labour camp simply for discussing the failings of the government with another impoverished American. thats what work is
An impoverished American who is the victim of injustice from the government at least has the chance that someone will speak out and bring it to public attention, even if nothing is done and the damage cannot be repaired. if nothing is done then whats the point

as i said, same same.