The data says the probabilities of that happening are extremely low. A more likely scenario is say an 18yo Isaak Rankine (in other words a star, a similar type on paper, but not as good as Shai), and another OK player. Thats what the data says.The trade you should actually be describing is trading 26yo Bolton for a 18yo Bolton and another star player.
Where do I sign?
All clubs miss with picks inside 20, including us, including since 2010. And we didn't have a top 20 pick in 2016 (But got Bolton with 29).It’s not a straw man, you said Bolton for Reid would be interesting.
Folks here are fond of saying drafting is difficult, even high in the draft.
But clubs are not equal for obvious reasons. Different needs, different recruiting staff, different philosophies.
Fact is our club has done well with high picks. So well, in fact, that we haven’t missed with any pick below 20 since 2010.
Not bad. Bloody good. But when it comes to the idea of trading Bolton, we are suddenly the club who can’t be trusted with high picks. We are the club who will look for Jarryd Oakley-Nicholls every time.
If you are speculating on the “Bolton for Reid” scenario then that is hyperbolic for two reasons. 1) we have a better recent record with high picks than that and 2) we are getting more than one first rounder for Bolton.
Nice try Antman - my point still stands.
It’s not a straw man, you said Bolton for Reid would be interesting.
Folks here are fond of saying drafting is difficult, even high in the draft.
But clubs are not equal for obvious reasons. Different needs, different recruiting staff, different philosophies.
Fact is our club has done well with high picks. So well, in fact, that we haven’t missed with any pick below 20 since 2010.
Not bad. Bloody good. But when it comes to the idea of trading Bolton, we are suddenly the club who can’t be trusted with high picks. We are the club who will look for Jarryd Oakley-Nicholls every time.
If you are speculating on the “Bolton for Reid” scenario then that is hyperbolic for two reasons. 1) we have a better recent record with high picks than that and 2) we are getting more than one first rounder for Bolton.
If your list is *smile* you want to get more draft picks and pay salary cap elsewhere so as to not creat future pay expectation issues.And because Bolton is contracted on decent coin, any suitor would use that as leverage to give us less for him, or we’d wind up paying a large chunk of his salary while he’s playing for another club.
Corey Ellis?Fact is our club has done well with high picks. So well, in fact, that we haven’t missed with any pick below 20 since 2010.
No way. This only happens if a player is overpaid. He's on big coin 'cos he's worth big coin.And because Bolton is contracted on decent coin, any suitor would use that as leverage to give us less for him, or we’d wind up paying a large chunk of his salary while he’s playing for another club.
You obviously don't bother watching any Richmond games irritated insect. Not only does the Nankster ruck for us, but he also regularly wins clearances and lays tackles on oppo mids as well. The most effective mid we've got by a long way.Wake up old man, we are talking about the midfield since that it was Cart's contention that's where our greatest need is.
Fact is our club has done well with high picks. So well, in fact, that we haven’t missed with any pick below 20 since 2010.
Yeah it’s not a perfect record, my bad.Corey Ellis?
Ben Lennon?
RCD?
Yeah see above, my mistake. Our overall first round record is still pretty good and certainly after the 2021 effort with two promising first round picks I’d be confident of using them well.You seem to have purposely forgotten that 2013 and 2014 existed, Not missed with any pick below 20 since 2010, you think Lennon and Corey Ellis were successful picks?
Again, it's irrelevant how good or bad our recruiters are.
Yeah see above, my mistake. Our overall first round record is still pretty good and certainly after the 2021 effort with two promising first round picks I’d be confident of using then well.