Political correctness & other nonsensical rubbish

[jb03]

If they banned Anne Geddes,that would be preferable. ;D

Too true.


JD, I made that point about infants. A 1 yo naked is no big deal, nor probably a 2 yo. But at some age it becomes an issue - before it reverts back to being a non issue.

It is a fascinating little blue this, the left punching on with their traditional supporters.

Neil Mitchell had it going the other way this morning, he interviewed Louise Adler who (IMO) made a dill of herself and strengthened the argument of those in favour of censorship.

 

[Tiger74]

Neil Mitchell had it going the other way this morning, he interviewed Louise Adler who (IMO) made a dill of herself and strengthened the argument of those in favour of censorship.

I heard that. When she couldn't bring herself to say child porn should be banned (she just kept saying people don't have to look at art) you knew she was dead.

 

[jb03]

I heard that. When she couldn't bring herself to say child porn should be banned (she just kept saying people don't have to look at art) you knew she was dead.

Agree totally. Also public displays of rape and racism are also acceptable in Louiseland.

 

[Dyer'ere]

evo, why the hell doesn't someone do the right thing and blow itself up at an Anne Geddes launch? Nutcases are like cops - there's never one around you you need em.

I've figured what you mean about the one and two year olds, jb. Daft day for me as usual. It's because in bogan society it's okay for such people to be paraded nude by their pervy freak parents. ;D

In some cultures parading of one year olds naked is considered tantamount to putting them on the game. And they would burn Anne Geddes for her hideous works. Oh, sorry I've wandered back on to the burn Anne Geddes idea.

Oh that's right. This is what I meant. I'm very grateful to you all that only the artist and not the subject of the Anne Geddes atrocity was subject to your ridicule. Heven't I suffered enough? You see the one on the right is me. I was exploited by my parents and the artist. That picture followed me all through a school and preceded me to a dozen others.

How jealous do you think I am of that girl from the Henson photo? Is was cool in her bohemian world to pose nude for artists. Not so mine. How many times did I have to go to hospital to have that photo removed from my deepest orifices? And then they'd say that I put it there.

Let me tell you the fellow who counseled that girl that she could sue, that one in the paper yesterday, he has saved me and many like me. And he's ruined that freakazoid Anne Geddes.

 

[Liverpool]

One for the racing fans out there....it seems no area of our life escapes the nonsense from a minority:


Racing officials say 'Aydee, change that name'
Danny Lannen
31May08
A GEELONG racehorse part-owner says he was just having a bit of fun when he suggested a highly offensive Arabic name for his new steed.
Rodney Lane was yesterday lamenting living in a sanitised world after industry officials ordered the horse's name - Aydee Fic - be changed.
The name can be translated from Arabic as F--- You. The two-year-old is now racing as Journey On.
It won its maiden race last saturday at Toowoomba, where club secretary Gavin McEvoy was promptly inundated with complaints.
"The phone rang off the hook, I reckon they thought I'd named the horse," Mr McEvoy said.
"They were saying how offensive it was and it's not a nice thing to say.
"I had no idea; I don't know Arabic.
"I brought it to the attention of racing officials and, obviously, it went further."
Racing Services Information Australia ordered the change after establishing the Arabic meaning.
Mr Lane said he was responsible for the name.
"I was only having a bit of fun," he said.
"That was the third name I submitted on the list of possible names,
"I think Sam Newman is right; it's a sanitised world now."
The colt is part-owned in Geelong and Toowoomba.
Other part-owners yesterday distanced themselves from the naming.
"I didn't actually choose it, it was one of the other syndicate members," Neil Corstorphan said.
"There has been a bit of a push to change it.
"I didn't make the name up to start with, (but) as long the horse keeps winning (I don't care what it's called)."
Aydee Fic paid $5.40 for its only win before becoming Journey On, and is now being spelled by Queensland trainer Tony Gollan.
Mr McEvoy urged owners to be careful choosing horse names.
"It's important to realise that people can be offended," he said.
"It's nice to know everyone can have a bit of fun in racing, but when it goes too far we've got to take appropriate measures."

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2008/05/31/14546_news.html

 

[Tiger74]

One for the racing fans out there....it seems no area of our life escapes the nonsense from a minority:


Racing officials say 'Aydee, change that name'
Danny Lannen
31May08
A GEELONG racehorse part-owner says he was just having a bit of fun when he suggested a highly offensive Arabic name for his new steed.
Rodney Lane was yesterday lamenting living in a sanitised world after industry officials ordered the horse's name - Aydee Fic - be changed.
The name can be translated from Arabic as F--- You. The two-year-old is now racing as Journey On.
It won its maiden race last saturday at Toowoomba, where club secretary Gavin McEvoy was promptly inundated with complaints.
"The phone rang off the hook, I reckon they thought I'd named the horse," Mr McEvoy said.
"They were saying how offensive it was and it's not a nice thing to say.
"I had no idea; I don't know Arabic.
"I brought it to the attention of racing officials and, obviously, it went further."
Racing Services Information Australia ordered the change after establishing the Arabic meaning.
Mr Lane said he was responsible for the name.
"I was only having a bit of fun," he said.
"That was the third name I submitted on the list of possible names,
"I think Sam Newman is right; it's a sanitised world now."
The colt is part-owned in Geelong and Toowoomba.
Other part-owners yesterday distanced themselves from the naming.
"I didn't actually choose it, it was one of the other syndicate members," Neil Corstorphan said.
"There has been a bit of a push to change it.
"I didn't make the name up to start with, (but) as long the horse keeps winning (I don't care what it's called)."
Aydee Fic paid $5.40 for its only win before becoming Journey On, and is now being spelled by Queensland trainer Tony Gollan.
Mr McEvoy urged owners to be careful choosing horse names.
"It's important to realise that people can be offended," he said.
"It's nice to know everyone can have a bit of fun in racing, but when it goes too far we've got to take appropriate measures."

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2008/05/31/14546_news.html

Your late with the mail on this one, was discussed by KB in some detail recently. This problem has been around for decades, with a whole bunch of horses having to be renamed when the gag behind the name is found. Used to be either phonetic names (looks good on paper, but when you say it quickly it sounds like you are saying something rude).

The way KB was talking the rule on horse names has been in place since Adam was a boy, so long before your politically correct fears arose.

 

[Liverpool]

Your late with the mail on this one, was discussed by KB in some detail recently. This problem has been around for decades, with a whole bunch of horses having to be renamed when the gag behind the name is found. Used to be either phonetic names (looks good on paper, but when you say it quickly it sounds like you are saying something rude).
The way KB was talking the rule on horse names has been in place since Adam was a boy, so long before your politically correct fears arose.

Been away for a few days so haven't heard KB at all on SEN.

And let's be honest...I understand people complaining about a name that sounds rude in english...but lets be honest....if this story didn't appear in the news then would you or I have known what "Aydee" mean in english?

It only became a story because a minority complained.

Reminds me of that one a while back I posted on here about Mr. Udink who had his name "UDINK" on his number plate and he had to change it because it might offend Vietnamese people.....even though Udink is his actual surname!

 

[Six Pack]

Serious impact on yr life, Livers?

 

[Disco08]

Been away for a few days so haven't heard KB at all on SEN.

And let's be honest...I understand people complaining about a name that sounds rude in english...but lets be honest....if this story didn't appear in the news then would you or I have known what "Aydee" mean in english?

It only became a story because a minority complained.

Reminds me of that one a while back I posted on here about Mr. Udink who had his name "UDINK" on his number plate and he had to change it because it might offend Vietnamese people.....even though Udink is his actual surname!

You think it's all well and good for a horse to be named '*smile* you' in any other language than English then? You can't see how this would be offensive to the people that actually spoke that language?

It's similar with the Udink case. Yes it's their surname, but it comes from a culture where the word has no offensive connotation. If he then moves to a culture where the word is deemed offensive and capable of causing hostility within the community why wouldn't local authorities take the appropriate steps to avoid any possible hostility?

 

[Tiger74]

Been away for a few days so haven't heard KB at all on SEN.

And let's be honest...I understand people complaining about a name that sounds rude in english...but lets be honest....if this story didn't appear in the news then would you or I have known what "Aydee" mean in english?

It only became a story because a minority complained.

Reminds me of that one a while back I posted on here about Mr. Udink who had his name "UDINK" on his number plate and he had to change it because it might offend Vietnamese people.....even though Udink is his actual surname!

Again its not unique. I think they had examples of this happening with other languages in the past (forget which, think French and Latin).

 

[Liverpool]

You think it's all well and good for a horse to be named '*smile* you' in any other language than English then? You can't see how this would be offensive to the people that actually spoke that language?

No.
1) English is the official language of this country....NOT Arabic (hence why 'Aydee' isn't on the filter on this forum )
2) The MAJORITY of Australians wouldn't have the foggiest that "Aydee" was Arabic for a start and wouldn't have a clue what it meant.
3) The horse's name wasn't telling any specific race, gender, or religion to 'Aydee'....it wasn't 'Arabs Aydee' or 'Disco Aydee'....if that occurred I could be more understanding to people finding it offensive if they, themselves, were being told to Aydee.

It's similar with the Udink case. Yes it's their surname, but it comes from a culture where the word has no offensive connotation. If he then moves to a culture where the word is deemed offensive and capable of causing hostility within the community why wouldn't local authorities take the appropriate steps to avoid any possible hostility?

Well, bad luck for their culture I say.

Udink is their name....same as Coon is the bloke who started the cheese joint.
If other parts of society slur a race using a word that by chance is similar in spelling to a person's name....then it shouldn't be the innocent person with the surname that should be forced to change.
This is where authorities exacerbate a situation and cause even more racism because of their pettiness.

'Dink' is the offensive term here (not Udink)....and if someone yells out something to a Vietnamese, then they would say 'you dink'......not 'U dink' and certainly not 'Udink'.

 

[Disco08]

lol, they're exactly the same thing if you say them aloud.

So in one case you think as long as the home culture isn't effected there's no problem, but on the other hand the home culture can get stuffed because this is someone's surname.

Come on, where's your consistency?

No.
1) English is the official language of this country....NOT Arabic (hence why 'Aydee' isn't on the filter on this forum )
2) The MAJORITY of Australians wouldn't have the foggiest that "Aydee" was Arabic for a start and wouldn't have a clue what it meant.
3) The horse's name wasn't telling any specific race, gender, or religion to 'Aydee'....it wasn't 'Arabs Aydee' or 'Disco Aydee'....if that occurred I could be more understanding to people finding it offensive if they, themselves, were being told to Aydee.

So you'd have no problem with a horse being named anything, no matter how offensive, as long as it's not in English?

 

[Liverpool]

lol, they're exactly the same thing if you say them aloud.

So does pair, pare, and pear....but they mean 3 different things!
The same sensible approach should have been taken with Mr.Udink.
Did he deliberately change his name or put these letters on the number plate to offend people?
The answer is 'no'.
These letter are his real name and it should have stood because this word has a totally different meaning to 'You dink'.
It is not the 'sounding' of the word that this decision should have been based on but the meaning and connotation behind the word.

So in one case you think as long as the home culture isn't effected there's no problem, but on the other hand the home culture can get stuffed because this is someone's surname.
Come on, where's your consistency?

A real person's surname should override any cultural complaint because the person's name is THEM....it isn't to have a crack at a culture...it is simply their name.
This is the reason I get annoyed with Aborigines complaining about Mr. Coon and his cheese.
Did he call himself Mr. Coon to offened Aborigines?
Was his family named that to have a crack at Aborigines?
That is the man's name....and if people get offended by someone's name when they know full well that the person is not having a crack at them...then they have some serious persecution complexes.

I wonder how the situation would have panned out if Mr Udink married a Vietnamese woman or Mr. Coon married an Aboriginal, as to whether these cultures would change their tunes then...?

So you'd have no problem with a horse being named anything, no matter how offensive, as long as it's not in English?

I never said 'no matter how offensive'.
Like I stated earlier:

3) The horse's name wasn't telling any specific race, gender, or religion to 'Aydee'....it wasn't 'Arabs Aydee' or 'Disco Aydee'....if that occurred I could be more understanding to people finding it offensive if they, themselves, were being told to Aydee.

I can understand people being offended if another labguage other than English was deliberately being used to offend somebody, someone, a culture, a relgion, a race, etc....but int he case of 'Aydee'....who exactly should be offended by this? and WHY??

 

[Tiger74]

I love it when Liverpool quotes himself :hihi

 

[Six Pack]

I worry about him mostly.

 

[Liverpool]

I love it when Liverpool quotes himself :hihi

Obviously I have to, to save me repeating myself.
If people actually READ my post properly, I wouldn't have to.
Quite simple.

 

[Tiger74]

Obviously I have to, to save me repeating myself.
If people actually READ my post properly, I wouldn't have to.
Quite simple.

Not always. May be just an echo, and you know what they say about empty vessels.... :cutelaugh

 

[Disco08]

So does pair, pare, and pear....but they mean 3 different things!
The same sensible approach should have been taken with Mr.Udink.
Did he deliberately change his name or put these letters on the number plate to offend people?
The answer is 'no'.
These letter are his real name and it should have stood because this word has a totally different meaning to 'You dink'.
It is not the 'sounding' of the word that this decision should have been based on but the meaning and connotation behind the word.

That's where the problem lies. Public walking past his car don't know that his name is Udink. It's very easy to construe his name, when used on a set of number plates, to mean 'You dink', which is offensive to members of that particular community.

I can understand a stubborn *smile* dutchman (being one myself, and knowing many more) being pigheaded about this, but I can't see how someone removed from the situation can't understand the logic behind the decision.

I can understand people being offended if another labguage other than English was deliberately being used to offend somebody, someone, a culture, a relgion, a race, etc....but int he case of 'Aydee'....who exactly should be offended by this? and WHY??

lol, that's like asking why people are offended by the use of swear words. I don't know how you manage to twist reality the way you do. Seriously, you don't think there's quite a few people who would find a horse named '*smile* You' offensive?

 

[evo]

What the hell is offensive about Udink.Fair dinkum how ferkin' soft is society these days.I'm with scouse,people should grow a bloody skin.

 

[Disco08]

Isn't dink a common insult to asians in the US?