Rhys Mathieson ... Daft prospect

[Stylo]

That was the same with judd 's shoulders. The same with Stringers broken leg and the same with Darling drinking issues.
It's all a smoke screen.
If the club thinks he can get himself right and he is good enough they should select him
I'm over missing out on good kids because of so called issues physical or behavior issues.

It was worse than any of those by a fair margin. His surgeon said he's only seen injuries that severe in motorcycle accidents. Rumours going around that medicos didn't like what they saw at the combine as well. He's a huge risk.

 

[zippadeee]

It was worse than any of those by a fair margin. His surgeon said he's only seen injuries that severe in motorcycle accidents. Rumours going around that medicos didn't like what they saw at the combine as well. He's a huge risk.

That is fair enough. But the Western Australian clubs have been "down playing kids" so they can select them with late picks for years.
The club should be looking at every kid and making its call on the information they get, not based on rumours and so called experts like Clark & Quayle

 

[turk-d-tiger]

It was worse than any of those by a fair margin. His surgeon said he's only seen injuries that severe in motorcycle accidents. Rumours going around that medicos didn't like what they saw at the combine as well. He's a huge risk.

Well Lets hope that clubs are not prepared to rick early picks and maybe just maybe let him slip to our #47
Certainly worth the risk there and would be just a fantastic story

 

[Stylo]

Well Lets hope that clubs are not prepared to rick early picks and maybe just maybe let him slip to our #47
Certainly worth the risk there and would be just a fantastic story

Definitely would, I reckon someone will bite before then though.

 

[Scoop]

He sounds like another Jacko/Tuckie replacement which is all good, but we have just picked up Townsend and Moore for that role too. I'd like us to select a player with class, like Corey Ellis, because it rewards a team in many ways, not just having some mongrel.
Still like the look of Burton as I said earlier. Love guys with marking and goal-scoring power who can be dangerous up forward but move into the midfield or even add support down back too. If he can be anything like Stringer, would be a great addition. Although no idea if the go-home-to-Adelaide issue is a consideration at all.
BTW, haven't noticed Danger being too 'ragged', at least not when he breaks clear.

Too consider Moore and Townsend as starting 22 and playing essential roles is pure folly when talking about Rhs Mathison's prospects. This kid is a top shelf dual All Australian coming from the premier junior program in the country. The other two are off casts who have already had chances and are long shots to cover a glaring gap in our structure.

Also, it is DRAFT prospect, not DAFT prospect. Honest mistake.

 

[mtench]

Too consider Moore and Townsend as starting 22 and playing essential roles is pure folly when talking about Rhs Mathison's prospects. This kid is a top shelf dual All Australian coming from the premier junior program in the country. The other two are off casts who have already had chances and are long shots to cover a glaring gap in our structure.

Exactly Scoop

 

[btoz_01]

Too consider Moore and Townsend as starting 22 and playing essential roles is pure folly when talking about Rhs Mathison's prospects. This kid is a top shelf dual All Australian coming from the premier junior program in the country. The other two are off casts who have already had chances and are long shots to cover a glaring gap in our structure.

What about his so called highlights package?
IMO looks like hes just willing to dish the ball off to anyone hardly ever hits a target

 

[lamb22]

Looks great to me. Great instinct to move the ball forward, very pro active in congestion, nice evasion, good vision, his gives look scrappy but that doesn't really worry me at this stage. Intent and ball winning ability look first class. Little bit of Tony Free in there, little bit of Selwood, little bit of Campbell and hopefully not too much Daffy.

Mind you the little clip at the end showed a few clean touches.

Highlight packages are always a risk. They were spot on on Dusty but Cellis's one was ordinary. As soon as you see Corey live you see he is a class act the way he plays off the ball and the way he reads and disposes of the ball especially in traffic.

 

[spook]

Heh heh, daft prospect. That's harsh.

 

[btoz_01]

Never seen a draft prospect highlights clip on the afl site thats 90% talk
Mathieson highlight package is just that talks about his bro-mance with Darcy Parish, catching fish, going to the farm ...:whistle yawn
Stop the talk. Looks like package has been put up by the Ol Iraqi Mis-information minister
Wheres the Highlights package ? There isnt one, its like selling a lemon

 

[K3]

Never seen a draft prospect highlights clip on the afl site thats 90% talk
Mathieson highlight package is just that talks about his bro-mance with Darcy Parish, catching fish, going to the farm ...:whistle yawn
Stop the talk. Looks like package has been put up by the Ol Iraqi Mis-information minister
Wheres the Highlights package ? There isnt one, its like selling a lemon

It is all 'touchy feely' at this time of they year, and I don't think there is anything wrong with that. The main question is... who cares about a 'highlights package' video? It is those who have been watching him for years who get to make a decision on his attributes as a future AFL footballer.

As someone who was happy with the Cialis pick, I am hoping FJ gets to pick the player he thinks is the best available. Hopefully there aren't any 'position based' instructions coming from anyone.

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

What about his so called highlights package?
IMO looks like hes just willing to dish the ball off to anyone hardly ever hits a target

It looks like he handballs with his wrist!

 

[Stylo]

Never seen a draft prospect highlights clip on the afl site thats 90% talk
Mathieson highlight package is just that talks about his bro-mance with Darcy Parish, catching fish, going to the farm ...:whistle yawn
Stop the talk. Looks like package has been put up by the Ol Iraqi Mis-information minister
Wheres the Highlights package ? There isnt one, its like selling a lemon

Go to the draft machine, angrypants.

 

[btoz_01]

Go to the draft machine, angrypants.

You sure its not called Daft machine ? 8-

 

[mtench]

Duel AA inside mid who can go forward and take a grab over head and kick goals sounds like a win win to me.

 

[leon]

Too consider Moore and Townsend as starting 22 and playing essential roles is pure folly when talking about Rhs Mathison's prospects. This kid is a top shelf dual All Australian coming from the premier junior program in the country. The other two are off casts who have already had chances and are long shots to cover a glaring gap in our structure.

Also, it is DRAFT prospect, not DAFT prospect. Honest mistake.

A delayed reply - been busy. Did I ever say that Moore or Townsend were certain 'starting 22' players? And you think that because Mathieson "is a top shelf dual All Australian coming from the premier junior program in the country", that makes him a certain success, does it? Seriously? How's Jack Watts gone at Dees; Tom Boyd at Dogs? And both went No.1 with obviously heaps of credits in the bank from junior football including TAC? Watts an AA. There's no guarantees of success with a young draftee, no matter who they are, or where they're from. FWIW, I actually think these 2 guys will still make it long-term although doubt Watts will ever live up to expectations. The point is it can take time, luck (esp. with injury), the right environment.
That's just why there's still a good chance that M & T can make good, especially T as only young. The fact that Moore was a pick-9 is further proof of the 'folly' of your so assertive view. I'm not even going to bother looking up if he was an AA.
But you missed the thrust of my post which was about what RFC really needs at the moment; and the implication that maybe not a stockpile of inside-mids. Even if we take M, doubt he's necessarily going to definitely excel Moore and Townsend immediately ... just because of the facile grounds you offer. Their harder, bigger, trained-up bodies will give them first dibs I'd say, allowing a Mathieson type the time to build up and develop.
Not sure what clip I looked at previously, but I went back and looked at the latest preview on AFL site for Mathieson. And as I'd already implied - there's plenty to like. As they say, needs to develop a tank, maybe improve kicking range - typical areas for a young player to work on in a proper AFL program. But he's certainly an extractor who hunts and finds the footy. Like his marking and ability to kick long, go forward and find a goal.
But a top team cannot just be made with inside mids. It's the same as how in my other posts, I've expressed concern that many think RFC must pick a SF, ignoring all the young talent we took in 2014 (Short, Butler etc.) who will come on hopefully. What I was overall saying is that we're best to take the best available talent, and Burton could possibly be that but it all hinges on that knee issue. If you want to argue needs/deficiencies, if you look at my other posts, I have consistently expressed concern about KPD depth and genuine ruck stocks for 200cm+ athletic type.
But there's no certainty with draft selections, obviously whether Mathieson is even available when our pick finally comes around. Another guy that might fall for us to weigh up there is Balac; again an interesting comparison with your boy.
As I said, want someone with class, who the opposition hate to see the ball in their hands.
Until the draft selection is made, then in maybe 2/3 years time, someone might have a comeback.
But until then your view is as much 'poop as scoop!' [like mine, but at least I don't claim to be an all-time guru of infallible football opinion!]

 

[Scoop]

A delayed reply - been busy. Did I ever say that Moore or Townsend were certain 'starting 22' players? And you think that because Mathieson "is a top shelf dual All Australian coming from the premier junior program in the country", that makes him a certain success, does it? Seriously? How's Jack Watts gone at Dees; Tom Boyd at Dogs? And both went No.1 with obviously heaps of credits in the bank from junior football including TAC? Watts an AA. There's no guarantees of success with a young draftee, no matter who they are, or where they're from. FWIW, I actually think these 2 guys will still make it long-term although doubt Watts will ever live up to expectations. The point is it can take time, luck (esp. with injury), the right environment.
That's just why there's still a good chance that M & T can make good, especially T as only young. The fact that Moore was a pick-9 is further proof of the 'folly' of your so assertive view. I'm not even going to bother looking up if he was an AA.
But you missed the thrust of my post which was about what RFC really needs at the moment; and the implication that maybe not a stockpile of inside-mids. Even if we take M, doubt he's necessarily going to definitely excel Moore and Townsend immediately ... just because of the facile grounds you offer. Their harder, bigger, trained-up bodies will give them first dibs I'd say, allowing a Mathieson type the time to build up and develop.
Not sure what clip I looked at previously, but I went back and looked at the latest preview on AFL site for Mathieson. And as I'd already implied - there's plenty to like. As they say, needs to develop a tank, maybe improve kicking range - typical areas for a young player to work on in a proper AFL program. But he's certainly an extractor who hunts and finds the footy. Like his marking and ability to kick long, go forward and find a goal.
But a top team cannot just be made with inside mids. It's the same as how in my other posts, I've expressed concern that many think RFC must pick a SF, ignoring all the young talent we took in 2014 (Short, Butler etc.) who will come on hopefully. What I was overall saying is that we're best to take the best available talent, and Burton could possibly be that but it all hinges on that knee issue. If you want to argue needs/deficiencies, if you look at my other posts, I have consistently expressed concern about KPD depth and genuine ruck stocks for 200cm+ athletic type.
But there's no certainty with draft selections, obviously whether Mathieson is even available when our pick finally comes around. Another guy that might fall for us to weigh up there is Balac; again an interesting comparison with your boy.
As I said, want someone with class, who the opposition hate to see the ball in their hands.
Until the draft selection is made, then in maybe 2/3 years time, someone might have a comeback.
But until then your view is as much 'poop as scoop!' [like mine, but at least I don't claim to be an all-time guru of infallible football opinion!]

Leon goes BANG BANG! ;D

Good luck to ya pal. ;D

 

[leon]

OK quits, mate. I guess we wait to see whose available at our pick first of all but once he's a Tiger player, we wish him the best and hope like hell he was the right one!

 

[turk-d-tiger]

Somebody should start a poll with 10 players that might be available at our selection just to get a idea about what the masses want

 

[jokershoppe]

* Attention Francis Jackson* Shane Yarran rookie pick would be nice
#12 - Ah Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i fully agree, give yarran (shane) a go, 54 goals in the wafl is something special talents do, then select best mid at 12, if it works we fix two areas, our inside mids, and forward line.