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Round 1 Ticketing and Other Discussion

nqtiger

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I think it depends. The example you gave is fair enough, but should a 20 year member who has contributed the bare min GA membership and hasn't been to games, really get priority over someone who has maybe been an 8-9 year member but has contributed through reserved seating / various apparel items etc.

Whilst I get your point on loyalty, I don't think its the only thing that matters. Its the overall contribution to the club that should matter.

Eg. in my personal circumstance (and I've been happy not getting a ticket to the GF's in 2017 and 2019) as I understand I haven't been here for the suffering that many have gone through, but I've had a reserved seat membership for 7 years now and went to watch games in the previous 2-3 years, but have only been in Australia for 11 years (and had never seen a game before I moved here). Theres not much more I could have done than what I have done, yet there are people that have been 20 year members, base membership only, don't go to games that always get priority.

Loyalty is shown in more ways than just length of membership.
Well I couldn’t get a ticket in 17 but got one in 19 and 20 and I live in Qld but am currently at 22 years, so did I deserve a ticket in 19 ?
 

RoarEmotion

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Aug 20, 2005
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As an AFL member I’m worried that the same scalping facilitation will occur as non competing club members buy tickets and even guest passes and scalp back to general public.

I have contacted the AFL and got a copy paste response and that they haven’t worked it out yet pretty much.

I just hope they come up with a way to only allow competing club members initial access then open it up if those don’t sell out.
 
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eddazol

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As an AFL member I’m worried that the same scalping facilitation will occur as non competing club members buy tickets and even guest passes and scalp back to general public.

I have contacted the AFL and got a copy paste response and that they haven’t worked it out yet pretty much.

I just hope they come up with a way to only allow competing club members initial access then open it up if those don’t sell out.
Agree. The AFL members should be for home team club support first and then away club support second. Any tickets left over in Afl members then open to other Afl members.
 
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zippadeee

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Oct 8, 2004
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Out of the years to miss out on watching us play is this year.
This virus wont let up and will cost us another season unable to watch the boys live.
Why didn't this virus come out in 1990 or 2010?
 
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mrposhman

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I've been to 3, maybe four games in the last 20 years. My boys have been to 1 each and we've all been to the 2019 Grand Final. 16 or 17 years of consecutive membership for me.

They've been members since before they were born. We are foundation MRC members and have continued the MRC membership, Tier 1 I think, pre and post game access, from the beginning. MRC needs a match day membership so despite not going to games, we have those as well. Kids are Rookie club members from birth.

Because of the MRC we get a GF guarantee. To use that I need to fly all of us back to Australia for the day, which we did in 2019.

Tell me why you should get priority over us.

I did say "overall contribution to the club". Clearly when I mentioned that I wasn't meaning those that are MRC members but can't get to games.

As I said, I have no problem with not getting a ticket in 2017 or 2019. I haven't been through the traumatic years that I hear about, so had no problem with watching those games from the PRO (still money going into the club), but at some point I would love to go to a GF, but as it stands, there are people with basic membership (but more years) and don't go to games that get priority.

There is no perfect system, and thats what I was actually just commenting on, but people seem to see that as an attack on those that have had longer service. Unfortunately thats what seems to be "discussion" on PRE.
 

Baloo

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Nov 8, 2005
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I did say "overall contribution to the club". Clearly when I mentioned that I wasn't meaning those that are MRC members but can't get to games.

As I said, I have no problem with not getting a ticket in 2017 or 2019. I haven't been through the traumatic years that I hear about, so had no problem with watching those games from the PRO (still money going into the club), but at some point I would love to go to a GF, but as it stands, there are people with basic membership (but more years) and don't go to games that get priority.

There is no perfect system, and thats what I was actually just commenting on, but people seem to see that as an attack on those that have had longer service. Unfortunately thats what seems to be "discussion" on PRE.

Ultimately you can't know anyone's situation or reasons for attending or not. It's also very subjective as to who should be first in the queue. Then you still get those who are first in the queue getting upset because they didn't get better seats. Maybe the club should ask everyone for a financial statement and base admittance on everyone's contribution divided by their gross yearly income multiplied by length of service subtracted by years resident in Melbourne.

The club will never win this one. Should it be length if service? Yes. Should it be financial contribution? Yes. Should it be anyone that identifies as a Richmond supporter? Yes. We all deserve to get to a Grand Final but with the small number of tickets available to the members, we're always going to have challenges keeping people happy.

But ultimately if we're arguing about who should get tickets to the grand final, we should be very happy regardless, we're in another Grand Final.
 

mrposhman

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Ultimately you can't know anyone's situation or reasons for attending or not. It's also very subjective as to who should be first in the queue. Then you still get those who are first in the queue getting upset because they didn't get better seats. Maybe the club should ask everyone for a financial statement and base admittance on everyone's contribution divided by their gross yearly income multiplied by length of service subtracted by years resident in Melbourne.

The club will never win this one. Should it be length if service? Yes. Should it be financial contribution? Yes. Should it be anyone that identifies as a Richmond supporter? Yes. We all deserve to get to a Grand Final but with the small number of tickets available to the members, we're always going to have challenges keeping people happy.

But ultimately if we're arguing about who should get tickets to the grand final, we should be very happy regardless, we're in another Grand Final.

I agree its subjective as to the criteria and there are various criteria that could be used.

My initial point was to Mr Brightsides point (which is fair enough) that length of service is the most important thing, but I was merely commenting that there are other points of view than purely length of service.

Ultimately I think the club will continue to process it on length of service and I'll need to suck it up for a few years until I'm gold.
 

Baloo

Delisted Free Agent
Nov 8, 2005
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I agree its subjective as to the criteria and there are various criteria that could be used.

My initial point was to Mr Brightsides point (which is fair enough) that length of service is the most important thing, but I was merely commenting that there are other points of view than purely length of service.

Ultimately I think the club will continue to process it on length of service and I'll need to suck it up for a few years until I'm gold.
My reaction was to your premise that someone who has been a 20 year member but doesn't go to games very often should be seen in a lesser light.
You can't know why people aren't attending games so it's hard to make a value judgement based on games attended. You could also counter argue that by buying season tickets but not using them, they are actually contributing more to the club financially because they don't expect anything in return.

Anyway, let's hope this debate gets heated come 3rd week in September again this year.
 
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Disco

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Dec 4, 2004
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Agree. The AFL members should be for home team club support first and then away club support second. Any tickets left over in Afl members then open to other Afl members.
Yep, should be competing clubs only and absolutely no guest passes.
This is what I wrote in their survey and that I also expected to be offered tickets to every game, given I paid in full last year.
 
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zippadeee

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Oct 8, 2004
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Don't worry about ballots and ticket allocations.
We will struggle to see the boys again.
We can't go 10 weeks without a lockdown.
 

Redford

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I disagree on this one MDJ , always have always will, i Do however understand paid members feeling the way you do, however it is an extreme point , but this is the way I look at it , why should somebody who’s just jumped on the bandwagon and paid for a membership for 1,2 5 years whatever , have the same entitlement to somebody who shook cans 30 years ago , has put the hard earned in to the club through the good and the bad, mainly bad for most , I’m not saying the new member shouldn’t get what they pay for , I just strongly believe loyalty should be rewarded .

im a little more understanding with the finacial side, however its not special treatment it’s getting what you pay for , remember without many big paying/donating people we would certainly not have just won 3 of the last 4 flags, sure there’s some who can’t possibly afford grand final guaranteed type memberships , however theres others who find away to pay for these memberships . Yes it can be tough for the younger generation, however the entitlement you mention is exactly what young people expect now, they believe if they want it now they get it now, sometimes you’ve just got to wait your turn , we all had too.

I think I’m right on this , a poster on PRE has been a member around 50 years and was unable to get a ticket in the 2019 ballot, is that fair ? I don’t think so . I’ve had a sook about this before an yep I’m still sooking ;) in 2019 a group of us who are all platinum Plus members (25+) ,3121 members( guaranteed GF tickets) a couple of us have done unpaid work for the club raising money , which is certainly not done for benefits just part of my point , anyway got absolutely shithouse tickets , yes agree should be happy just to be there and probably would have been if it was 2017 , however when you see / hear about new members, MRC members and so on in awesome spots it just doesn’t sit well with me, yes it is a bit of a “ I’m entitled “ however I believe we have earned the right .

Many will disagree and that’s fair enough, however this is one thing I think loyalty deserves reward

Hear ! Hear Burnside. Well said. (Those 2019 seats were still *** awesome regardless. Heh heh heh....ole Chumpley got absolutely rabbitted. Should have seen him.)
 
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Ridley

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Jul 21, 2003
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Hear ! Hear Burnside. Well said. (Those 2019 seats were still *** awesome regardless. Heh heh heh....ole Chumpley got absolutely rabbitted. Should have seen him.)
Chumpley was looking for the ice picks and clampons at 3/4 time. The top of the Great Southern Stand is like the *smile* Hilary Step on Mount Everest when the Tigers are 10 goals up and you’ve got a dozen beers in ya!!
 
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Redford

"But Brendon, I still think I can help out ."
Dec 18, 2002
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Chumpley was looking for the ice picks and clampons at 3/4 time. The top of the Great Southern Stand is like the *smile* Hilary Step on Mount Everest when the Tigers are 10 goals up and you’ve got a dozen beers in ya!!
Hah hah hah... it did become like a massive 20,000 foot drop off by the end.
 

DavidSSS

Tiger Champion
Dec 11, 2017
4,504
5,109
Melbourne
Another possible way to assist the Grand Final ticketing issue is to increase capacity. I know we can't go back to the days of squeezing 120K in the MCG by having packed standing room, but we could remove some seats and have less packed standing room. You fit a lot more people into standing room and all we would need to do is reduce the density that they allowed back in the 1970s.

DS
 
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TigerMasochist

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Jul 13, 2003
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Ultimately you can't know anyone's situation or reasons for attending or not. It's also very subjective as to who should be first in the queue. Then you still get those who are first in the queue getting upset because they didn't get better seats. Maybe the club should ask everyone for a financial statement and base admittance on everyone's contribution divided by their gross yearly income multiplied by length of service subtracted by years resident in Melbourne.

The club will never win this one. Should it be length if service? Yes. Should it be financial contribution? Yes. Should it be anyone that identifies as a Richmond supporter? Yes. We all deserve to get to a Grand Final but with the small number of tickets available to the members, we're always going to have challenges keeping people happy.

But ultimately if we're arguing about who should get tickets to the grand final, we should be very happy regardless, we're in another Grand Final.
Yep. Club's never going to keep everyone happy over who gets access to tickets at Grand final time. Way to many fans n nowhere near enough tickets available.

Can't understand anyone bitching about not getting a fancy enough seat though.
Apart from The MCC n AFL members only seating areas ( best areas on ground ) plus a small allocation to the clubs for their player family n corporate needs. The rest of the general plebs seating is purely random allocation by the ticketing company. You get offered a seat or perhaps even standing at a price of $X dollars take it or *smile* off. The clubs have no say at all n it's completely irrelevant to how fat your yearly membership is.
 
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Mr Brightside

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Jul 1, 2005
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Hear ! Hear Burnside. Well said. (Those 2019 seats were still *** awesome regardless. Heh heh heh....ole Chumpley got absolutely rabbitted. Should have seen him.)
Hehehe Burnside, geez your out of form, little to long over with kiddies on flog footy , cmon son Lift !!!!!

So where did you get MPs mug shot ;)
 

Redford

"But Brendon, I still think I can help out ."
Dec 18, 2002
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Hehehe Burnside, geez your out of form, little to long over with kiddies on flog footy , cmon son Lift !!!!!

So where did you get MPs mug shot ;)
You need to play this Mr Burnside. And turn it up LOUD. Real loud. One of your best.

 
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Ian4

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May 6, 2004
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This is an interesting debate. I am a platinum member (26 years). I also have the Roaming Tiger membership and MRC. Of my group of 5, one other is gold and has MRC. The other 3 are under gold level and none of them are MRC (although 2 are on the waiting list).

If the club decided to base ticketing on seniority, it wouldn’t really help me unless I separated myself from my group. I’m sure there are others in a similar position to myself. perhaps thats another reason why the club went this way.
 
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22nd Man

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Aug 29, 2011
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There is also the point that not everyone has historically chosen to have a reserved seat. I'm a platinum member but even in the years I had a high end membership I sold the seat back to the club because I'd rather watch the game from various points throughout the season and it seemed selfish to keep a seat and only use it once all year.

If it was a ticketed game I'd use my member access to choose a seat I wanted for that game.

I don't see why my game access rights should be considered inferior to someone who has been a member for many less years but holds a current reserve seat.
I have been a member continuously since the 70s... But never had a reserved seat so obviously not committed enough. Never wanted a reserved seat as that immediately dictates who you go to the game with. I even like going with opposition supporting mates and relatives. And my Tiger mates don't all go every week and I don't go with same ones each time anyway. Have full AFL and restricted MCC to give me a few options for H&A and finals access.
 
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Tenacious

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May 19, 2008
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This is an interesting debate. I am a platinum member (26 years). I also have the Roaming Tiger membership and MRC. Of my group of 5, one other is gold and has MRC. The other 3 are under gold level and none of them are MRC (although 2 are on the waiting list).

If the club decided to base ticketing on seniority, it wouldn’t really help me unless I separated myself from my group. I’m sure there are others in a similar position to myself. perhaps thats another reason why the club went this way.

Very similar situation with me and my group of 8 (who have seats together at games and sat together at ‘19 Granny)

Whatever they do this year with seating will surely see us split up and possibly spread over different weeks
Oh well - shyte happens

If I was to be having a bellyache about it - then I’d still prefer doing it as as a 3 out of 4 premiership winning fan
 
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