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Steve Hocking

“You can see why the AFL has had to bring in these rules. Using those guys off the back of the square is incredibly effective.

Ignoring who this affects the most, why does the AFL have to bring in a rule to nullify an effective strategy?

It makes no sense, just because a strategy is effective, does that mean it needs to be nullified? Should they outlaw kicking the ball, it is effective in scoring?

What a joke of a justification.

What a joke of an organisation.

Let's hope they don't turn the game into a joke.

DS
 
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Ignoring who this affects the most, why does the AFL have to bring in a rule to nullify an effective strategy?

It makes no sense, just because a strategy is effective, does that mean it needs to be nullified?
It makes perfect sense if you are trying to bring down the very team that's knocked out your old club in 3 finals, and their salty coach keeps whinging and whining.

666 to stop us having 2 defenders come off the square

kick in rule to stop our forward press

standing on the mark rule to stop our aggressive man on the mark to help our defensive structure set up.

"We just need to peg them back a bit"

Were the lions hawks or cats ever pegged back a bit?
 
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Easy fixed - ball it up quickly after a goal, call a ball up quickly and ball it up immediately when a pack forms.

Quarters weren't this long when they were 25 minutes plus time on, it is the AFL's fault if the quarters are too long now and another rule change to compensate for their own stuff ups is precisely what is not needed.

DS
 
Easy fixed - ball it up quickly after a goal, call a ball up quickly and ball it up immediately when a pack forms.
Sport in general has slowed down. Time between points in tennis, time between balls in cricket. I bet even lawn bowls takes longer.

Australia scored 721 in a day v Essex off 129 overs, and they didn't even use the full six hours.
 
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Yeah, 129 overs in a day will never ever happen again, doubt we will see 100 overs in a day.

In any case, I thought the AFL wanted Australian Rules Football to be more like gridiron, those games take forever and plays happen for a few seconds followed by a fair bit of nothing time. I thought they would like it this way.

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Surprised he hasn’t asked the handball to be replaced with throwing
He didn’t want his team to be disadvantaged if every other team was allowed to do it. I’m sure he had a quiet word with SHocking to let the umpires know what was and wasn’t allowed for the opposition teams. Just as I’m sure he’ll have a beer with his brother should he take over the role with a nudge nudge wink wink keep the status quo
 
Everytime I see this pr1cks name I want to smash my bloody iPad…he has *smile* up footy that much.
Such a smug looking *smile*.
 
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May 1, 2018

AFL greats’ radical solutions to fix game’s biggest issues: congestion, goal kicking, skills

“Coaches have hijacked the game with strategies over the last 20 years of the game,” AFL 360 co-host Mark Robinson said.

“The strategies are strangling the game. We can still have strategies, but we’ve also got to have the things that make this game great, which are goals and high marks and players running down the ground.”

Perhaps Richmond and Damien Hardwick personify that.

Prior to Round 1, the reigning premiership coach was asked on Fox Footy’s On The Couch whether he was more likely to pick talented players that can kick or hungry players that would stick tackles in his side.

“We’ll pick guys that predominantly can tackle first in that mentality,” Hardwick said.

- - - - -

There it is again, the hint that Richmond was perceived to play an undesirable brand. Tackling mentioned in relation to Richmond, but we've only been between 7th and 14th for tackles over the past five years.
 
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April 30, 2018

Don't like the game? Blame Richmond's pressure

The state of the game is the talking point of the week, as Ryan Buckland wrote about yesterday. Negativity abounds around low scoring, blowouts and scrappy play.

This sort of talk is standard every season, but it usually takes place in the bye rounds when there are fewer games to draw our attention, and the matches are spread out so each has more focus. Any example of the above is highlighted more than usual.

This year, the negativity has come early, possibly off the back of the Friday night game between the Western Bulldogs and Carlton. Friday night is the most watched game of any round, and this one wasn’t pretty.

Scheduling the Blues in marquee slots of Thursday and Friday nights three times in the first six rounds was an own goal of Terry Antonis proportions from the AFL, so they only have themselves to blame. The Victory midfielder was able to make amends on Saturday night, but the AFL media are unlikely to let up.

Ryan suggested that Richmond is partially responsible for the current trend that has seen more games be seen in a less than flattering light, and it does seem to be the case.

The Tigers lit a fire in the last month-and-a-half of 2017, and blazed all the way to a famous premiership off the back of unprecedented levels of pressure.

The gameplan was as unsophisticated as it gets in today’s world of over-coaching – defend wide when under pressure, then kick, push, prod, nudge, whack, scrap the ball forward at all costs, and get in the face of the opposition until they crumble.

In their last 16 matches, Richmond have a 14-2 record and are averaging 103 points per game. On paper it’s stunning, but the Tigers’ method ensures games are unattractive to many eyes. Their very essence is to deny teams the ability to play pretty football, and they get ugly in order to enforce it.

Good defence used to be about good defence, and attacking was a completely different weapon. Now, at least in Richmond’s case, offensive construct is almost completely based off the defensive method.

Richmond’s scoring comes when the game breaks their way, and the opposition crumbles. Then they drive a truck between the holes have opened in the opposition. Then, they dazzle.

The reason football appears to be less aesthetically pleasing than ever before is because there is currently no answer to pressure.

St Kilda under Ross Lyon and Collingwood under Mick Malthouse had pressure as their trademark, giving birth to the phrase ‘frontal pressure’. It felt like it was coming from one direction, and was about coaching tactics. Richmond’s pressure is 360 degrees, all over the field, and seems more about individual application, which is frenzied.

Given how successful the Tigers were, waltzing through September with an average winning margin of 45 points against three top four sides, it was only natural that opposition teams would look to copycat.

A common theme among Richmond’s opposition during this time has been that they just didn’t play well. But if the Tigers play well, it means the opposition simply can’t. And they usually play well.

Sides across the league are now focussing on applying pressure, and are getting better at it. By virtue of this, it’s getting harder and harder to play aesthetically pleasing footy.

What this also means is that intensity and mindset has never been more important in AFL football. It’s why we’re seeing such swings in form.

Sydney beats Geelong down at the Cattery missing Lance Franklin and Dan Hannebery, a week after going down at home to Adelaide missing their own stars. The Crows themselves rose up for that effort after getting trounced by Collingwood at their own home fortress.

Applying such fierce pressure is also physically and mentally demanding, especially so for teams that are a bit late to the party. The Tigers have been doing it for over a year now, and are well conditioned.

Remember, this time last season was when Richmond were getting overrun in matches against Adelaide, Western Bulldogs and Greater Western Sydney. Now, they are routinely storming over the top of teams that are limping to the line, rarely finishing with a fully fit 22 by the end of it.

Could it be that Richmond isn’t necessarily better than everyone else, as common wisdom has dictated in the last fortnight, but that they can be relied upon to play at a high intensity every week, and deliver on their gameplan? The Tigers can be trusted in a way few others can.

Pressure, when applied ferociously, is unbeatable. Richmond has unlocked the secret, and is delivering on it. When on song, there is a joy to what they do, and they are a pleasure to watch.

Most teams can’t deliver in the same way, and are too limited when under pressure themselves. By copying the trend, they’re actually falling further behind, and thus look ugly while doing it.
 
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Hocking, it's fantastic that you are leaving, this will forever be your legacy...........thanks for ruining a great game.


"The most perplexing call came on Saturday when Dockers backman Brennan Cox conceded a 50m penalty, despite appearing to barely take a step backwards. The Docker even appeared to stretch his legs, rather than gain an advantage or stop Eagle Oscar Allen from playing on."

"The incident left Eagles superstar Nic Naitanui, as well as footy commentators and fans, puzzled, with 3AW broadcaster Mark Allen describing the rule as mind-numbing”.

"But Hocking on Monday said the league supported the umpire’s decision."

“To the letter of the law, he turned his back on the player and moved backwards,” Hocking told the Herald Sun.

“You can’t move sideways, you can’t move backwards after ‘stand’ is called.”

 
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Hocking, it's fantastic that you are leaving, this will forever be your legacy...........thanks for ruining a great game.


"The most perplexing call came on Saturday when Dockers backman Brennan Cox conceded a 50m penalty, despite appearing to barely take a step backwards. The Docker even appeared to stretch his legs, rather than gain an advantage or stop Eagle Oscar Allen from playing on."

"The incident left Eagles superstar Nic Naitanui, as well as footy commentators and fans, puzzled, with 3AW broadcaster Mark Allen describing the rule as mind-numbing”.

"But Hocking on Monday said the league supported the umpire’s decision."

“To the letter of the law, he turned his back on the player and moved backwards,” Hocking told the Herald Sun.

“You can’t move sideways, you can’t move backwards after ‘stand’ is called.”

Hah hah hah.....ah geez. This is what happens in life when you let administrative leeches invade a popular every day person's activity. They want to be bigger than the participants and supporters that are the foundation and life blood, they want to impart their influence, control things and make people beholdent to their egos. And when they've ruined things they just slink off into the distance with nobody holding them accountable. "How did the game get like this ? What happened ? Where are the crowds ?"

Then, inevitably some other leech who needs to justify themselves comes along and makes even more changes when really, all the punters want is some sensibility and stability, not endless and unwarranted interference by the leeches.
 
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Hah hah hah.....ah geez. This is what happens in life when you let administrative leeches invade a popular every day person's activity. They want to be bigger than the participants and supporters that are the foundation and life blood, they want to impart their influence, control things and make people beholdent to their egos. And when they've ruined things they just slink off into the distance with nobody holding them accountable. "How did the game get like this ? What happened ? Where are the crowds ?"

Then, inevitably some other leech who needs to justify themselves comes along and makes even more changes when really, all the punters want is some sensibility and stability, not endless and unwarranted interference by the leeches.
It’s like the genius who tried to rebrand Kentucky Fried chicken to just “KFC“ then the next one comes in and says “let’s go back to calling ourselves Kentucky Fried Chicken”.
 
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April 30, 2018

Don't like the game? Blame Richmond's pressure

The state of the game is the talking point of the week, as Ryan Buckland wrote about yesterday. Negativity abounds around low scoring, blowouts and scrappy play.

This sort of talk is standard every season, but it usually takes place in the bye rounds when there are fewer games to draw our attention, and the matches are spread out so each has more focus. Any example of the above is highlighted more than usual.

This year, the negativity has come early, possibly off the back of the Friday night game between the Western Bulldogs and Carlton. Friday night is the most watched game of any round, and this one wasn’t pretty.

Scheduling the Blues in marquee slots of Thursday and Friday nights three times in the first six rounds was an own goal of Terry Antonis proportions from the AFL, so they only have themselves to blame. The Victory midfielder was able to make amends on Saturday night, but the AFL media are unlikely to let up.

Ryan suggested that Richmond is partially responsible for the current trend that has seen more games be seen in a less than flattering light, and it does seem to be the case.

The Tigers lit a fire in the last month-and-a-half of 2017, and blazed all the way to a famous premiership off the back of unprecedented levels of pressure.

The gameplan was as unsophisticated as it gets in today’s world of over-coaching – defend wide when under pressure, then kick, push, prod, nudge, whack, scrap the ball forward at all costs, and get in the face of the opposition until they crumble.

In their last 16 matches, Richmond have a 14-2 record and are averaging 103 points per game. On paper it’s stunning, but the Tigers’ method ensures games are unattractive to many eyes. Their very essence is to deny teams the ability to play pretty football, and they get ugly in order to enforce it.

Good defence used to be about good defence, and attacking was a completely different weapon. Now, at least in Richmond’s case, offensive construct is almost completely based off the defensive method.

Richmond’s scoring comes when the game breaks their way, and the opposition crumbles. Then they drive a truck between the holes have opened in the opposition. Then, they dazzle.

The reason football appears to be less aesthetically pleasing than ever before is because there is currently no answer to pressure.

St Kilda under Ross Lyon and Collingwood under Mick Malthouse had pressure as their trademark, giving birth to the phrase ‘frontal pressure’. It felt like it was coming from one direction, and was about coaching tactics. Richmond’s pressure is 360 degrees, all over the field, and seems more about individual application, which is frenzied.

Given how successful the Tigers were, waltzing through September with an average winning margin of 45 points against three top four sides, it was only natural that opposition teams would look to copycat.

A common theme among Richmond’s opposition during this time has been that they just didn’t play well. But if the Tigers play well, it means the opposition simply can’t. And they usually play well.

Sides across the league are now focussing on applying pressure, and are getting better at it. By virtue of this, it’s getting harder and harder to play aesthetically pleasing footy.

What this also means is that intensity and mindset has never been more important in AFL football. It’s why we’re seeing such swings in form.

Sydney beats Geelong down at the Cattery missing Lance Franklin and Dan Hannebery, a week after going down at home to Adelaide missing their own stars. The Crows themselves rose up for that effort after getting trounced by Collingwood at their own home fortress.

Applying such fierce pressure is also physically and mentally demanding, especially so for teams that are a bit late to the party. The Tigers have been doing it for over a year now, and are well conditioned.

Remember, this time last season was when Richmond were getting overrun in matches against Adelaide, Western Bulldogs and Greater Western Sydney. Now, they are routinely storming over the top of teams that are limping to the line, rarely finishing with a fully fit 22 by the end of it.

Could it be that Richmond isn’t necessarily better than everyone else, as common wisdom has dictated in the last fortnight, but that they can be relied upon to play at a high intensity every week, and deliver on their gameplan? The Tigers can be trusted in a way few others can.

Pressure, when applied ferociously, is unbeatable. Richmond has unlocked the secret, and is delivering on it. When on song, there is a joy to what they do, and they are a pleasure to watch.

Most teams can’t deliver in the same way, and are too limited when under pressure themselves. By copying the trend, they’re actually falling further behind, and thus look ugly while doing it.
Who the *smile* is Ryan Buckland?

So we were high scoring averaging 103 points but it was our fault other games were low scoring.

Clear concerted effort over many years to bring us down.

So you develop a game and train your backside off to get to the top then the AFL tap you on the shoulder and say sorry you can't play that way anymore.

get *smile*
 
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It’s like the genius who tried to rebrand Kentucky Fried chicken to just “KFC“ then the next one comes in and says “let’s go back to calling ourselves Kentucky Fried Chicken”.
Or “New Coke” or making VB 4.5% and changing its brand.
 
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Hard to read the last few pages without getting angry and resentful.

I will take anyone winning a flag other than Geelong. I want them to fail, fall off a cliff and for Hocking to preside over a decade of irrelevance and failure.

I would take missing the finals just to beat them next week. I almost hope they suffer some nasty injuries.

Is there one likeable cats supporter in the media? I'm a Huddo fan (he's a good guy off the camera too) and the drain pipe is actually inoffensive but the rest can go *smile* themselves. Boring as bat *smile* commentators like Ling and Bartel, indulgent snobs like kermit and unlikeable players like flopper, cameron, rohan and miers.

I think I better watch a replay of the 17/18/20 finals wins over these *smile* just to get a smile again.
 
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