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My personal take on what he was saying is that the AFL and the clubs stand for what they stand for and if someone is opposed to that then they aren't really connected to them.
Once again I say this. Is the statement reflecting the views of everyone who works at AFL headquarters.
How is he able to state a given political position without advising that his staff are totally in agreement.
I do not know if The Voice will succeed or not. If it does then good on the people who vote for it.
Still have some reservations about it and will await some more details before making up my mind on how to vote.
Why does an organization of any kind have to dabble in politics.
One would think that taking a stand one way or another might drive some customers with alternative views away from that firm.
 
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Not sure when an organisation, commercial or otherwise, needs consent from all staff, or even consultation with all staff, for the organisation to make a public stance on a topic. They rarely do.
 
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Is the statement reflecting the views of everyone who works at AFL headquarters.
How is he able to state a given political position without advising that his staff are totally in agreement.

He's the leader of the organisation. so I think he's able to set the agenda for it.

In terms of the staff I think he would say the same thing, if your values don't align with ours then this probably isn't the place for you to work.
 
Wasn't quite sure where to put this but this is an interesting take from fmr PM Paul Keating's views on Ch9's willingness to push conflict (war) with China.


The articles in The Age are very alarmist and I really can't see how they serve Australia's interests. China is asserting itself on the world stage, it has become richer and more militarily capable, and is looking for respect.

Provoking them and then wailing about the consequences is idiotic.

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Grieving mother says son's final social media post 'sums up exactly' the Robodebt inquiry


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03...e-government-royal-commission-fraud/102027838

Sad story that is one of many. Having never relied on Centrelink/welfare I found it difficult to grasp the real impact of this scheme. It’s staggering really that they went ahead with it.

Vulnerable people being illegally targeted. Surely Robert has some sleepless nights over this.
 
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I do not care what your opinion is on The Voice, but do think it is inappropriate for sporting bodies, like the AFL to support one side, yes or no.
They should not be an advocate for anything political.
Run the football and leave politics to the politicians.
If one of the employees has an opinion then by all means let him or her express their views under their own name.
Question? Is the AFL speaking for all their employees or the players from all clubs?
It's funny, we never see these posts about leaving politics, or religion, or if sport, when players refuse to wear their teams uniforms because they are promoting equality.
 
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He's the leader of the organisation. so I think he's able to set the agenda for it.

In terms of the staff I think he would say the same thing, if your values don't align with ours then this probably isn't the place for you to work.
Whatever has happened to democracy, free speech and entitlement to one's own opinion.
 
It's incredible that all communication between Australian public servants and politicians is always verbal. There's never a paper trail :unsure: (such as robodebt) because that would mean the scumbag politicians would cop it in the neck.
 
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The way Dan Andrews answered the question in the press conference was an absolute disgrace. Not sure if he has done anything wrong or his government MP’s. But the way he referred to Robert Redlich shows he has no respect.


 
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Grieving mother says son's final social media post 'sums up exactly' the Robodebt inquiry


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03...e-government-royal-commission-fraud/102027838

Sad story that is one of many. Having never relied on Centrelink/welfare I found it difficult to grasp the real impact of this scheme. It’s staggering really that they went ahead with it.

Vulnerable people being illegally targeted. Surely Robert has some sleepless nights over this.

The whole thing is staggering, big insight into the evil of the previous government. Robo-debt was a living breathing example of the ugliest side of conservative ideology: If people are poor its their own fault, they aren't as good as rich people and deserve to be poor. There is an old adage in politics, that flies in the face of our alleged fair go, there are no votes in helping the unemployed. And they took it to the extreme, laying the boots into the poor played well with a sector of the Coalition voter base.

Can you imagine, just for arguments sake, Labor doing something similar to the rich? "Our ATO data shows that people earning over $400K on average dodge $30K pa annum in tax, so you must pay $30K, now, or we'll send the debt collectors around". For the rich, who could actually afford that and still pay the mortage and buy food, that scenario is beyond crazy, but for the poor, it happened. It beggars belief.

So mean, so blatant, and (thankfully), so illegal.
 
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Whatever has happened to democracy, free speech and entitlement to one's own opinion.

Those things are all great and not really at issue here.

Why would anyone want to work for an organisation if they didn't share the same values and beliefs?

I regularly question whether or not I should keep my Richmond memberships given we have pokies machines. The only reason I do is because I've had a personal chat with Brendon Gale about it and I believe our values are aligned and he wants out of them as much as I do.

If we hadn't of removed George Pell as a patron I would have done the same.

Personally if I was against the voice and Richmond were strongly in favour of it, I'm not sure I would continue with the club either. If you beliefs are so diametrically opposed then how can you really be connected to an organisation? It's hardly Richmond man philosophy.
 
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We are supposed to be a democracy with the right to have a view about anything we so choose.
With say a staff of say 100 in a company or organization, there will not be everyone with the same point of view on any subject.
Is say, 60 of those have one view then should the other 40 walk away from work, even if that company or organization has expressed a company stance favouring the 60?
 
We are supposed to be a democracy with the right to have a view about anything we so choose.
With say a staff of say 100 in a company or organization, there will not be everyone with the same point of view on any subject.
Is say, 60 of those have one view then should the other 40 walk away from work, even if that company or organization has expressed a company stance favouring the 60?

Not many companies are democracies. None that I've worked for.

Board or Executive leadership team make company decisions. If this is a particular stance on a social subject, so be it. That is what the company stands for. Employees don't need to agree, but they need to understand that's the company they work for. If they have a very strong objection to the stance, they are fully within their "democratic" right to choose to find another job elsewhere.

As for having the right to a view about anything you choose, that's cool. But that doesn't mean others can't have a view on your view.
 
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What would you do BR if it was a 50/50

I wouldn't work for any organisation that didn't align with my values, no matter what. I recognise it's easy for me to say that at my stage of life but I'd like to think I'd do the same if I was starting out again.

With an issue like the Voice however I don't think there is any question about where any decent social conscious would lie. I can't imagine any situation where any organisation whose values were important to them wouldn't declare support for the Voice.
 
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