So if we had an electorate with 5 candidates and 4 of them got 19.9% each and one got 20.4% then the last one would win under a non preferential system. What if that candidate with 20.4% was from the Nazi Party and would have been preferenced last by all the others under our current system of voting ?The biggest problem with preferences is allows parties with very little policies or any real substance a leg up.
The primary vote the Libs have more than Labor,we need to remove preferences so that each seat the MAJORITY vote for is elected .
That's all true but we can be thankful that we are not the US. Morrison will allow Albanese to be sworn in and go to that meeting next week in Japan and we have a peaceful transfer of power. They may lack grace in defeat but that is far as it goes.This mob routinely break long-standing political conventions. The convention is we did our best, we'll learn from the result, congrats to the winner. Not for this mob. Rave on and on about how great they've been and cheated by others who have gamed the system. Birmingham basically said there is something wrong with the system if the Libs are losing.
Fraudenberg is a spot on moniker. What a fraud. His self-styled image of being a moderate was well and truly exposed as a fraud, and was a big part of his downfall.Fraudenberg carrying on again this morning-embarassing.
Craig Kelly gone too, and Hanson on track to lose her senate position.
Bit of arrogance from the ALP with Keneally. They had a very good local candidate ready to go; young female lawyer of Vietnamese descent. Very popular apparently. But Elbow decides to parachute this lightweight in from her multi million dollar northern beaches home. It could well cost them an outright majority.What’s Keneally’s future ?
I saw Birmingham on the ABC last night. I actually thought he was quite scathing of his party in particular to the attitudes to diversity. He said they should’ve disendorsed Deves in Warringah.His speech last night was a shocker, went on and on about how great he is and how he's been cheated out of what is rightfully his. Other coalition honchos were saying the same, Birmingham on the ABC, the ex-PM, we are fantastic and have been wronged.
This mob routinely break long-standing political conventions. The convention is we did our best, we'll learn from the result, congrats to the winner. Not for this mob. Rave on and on about how great they've been and cheated by others who have gamed the system. Birmingham basically said there is something wrong with the system if the Libs are losing.
Outsiders on Sky was a comedy this morning. Whinging and furore to the point of nearly spitting at the camera. Also praising Buttonhead to take position as oppo leader.Welcome to a Dud-mo free country everyone !!!
And now, let’s cue all the right wing whinging, especially in the Murdoch media.
A great day for Australia !!!
I agree, but both parties have parachuted star candidates into safe seats forever. Bob Hawke had never been to Brunswick or Coburg in his life, and I doubt he ever spent any time there after he was elected.Bit of arrogance from the ALP with Keneally. They had a very good local candidate ready to go; young female lawyer of Vietnamese descent. Very popular apparently. But Elbow decides to parachute this lightweight in from her multi million dollar northern beaches home. It could well cost them an outright majority.
They would have won with the original candidate. The locals of Fowler rejected the parachute.
Yeah I often think of Hawke as the prime example of that. He spent his whole time as PM living in Sandringham, as his Melbourne base, whilst the member for Wills in the northern suburbs.I agree, but both parties have parachuted star candidates into safe seats forever. Bob Hawke had never been to Brunswick or Coburg in his life, and I doubt he ever spent any time there after he was elected.
I don't think they'll do it anymore
A lot of Labor voters in safe Liberal seats would have voted for Teals because they saw the chance to get rid of the turds.Even then only 2/3 of us voted for one of the major parties yet the cross benches will represent less than 10% of the seats.
Barnaby Joyce did it. Went from Queensland senator to a NSW seat. He had lived in Tamworth as a boy but was essentially a parachute inI agree, but both parties have parachuted star candidates into safe seats forever. Bob Hawke had never been to Brunswick or Coburg in his life, and I doubt he ever spent any time there after he was elected.
I don't think they'll do it anymore
Yeah. I don't disagree with your point but there are 2 sides to it. In terms of broader national strategy, you want to do everything you can to ensure your best players are in the game.Yeah I often think of Hawke as the prime example of that. He spent his whole time as PM living in Sandringham, as his Melbourne base, whilst the member for Wills in the northern suburbs.
That's true but also people like me voted for them.A lot of Labor voters in safe Liberal seats would have voted for Teals because they saw the chance to get rid of the turds.